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Postby dolfan » December 11th, 2008, 7:51 am

crispfin wrote: I found what he said:

“They don’t pose a serious threat to us in the way the Soviet Union posed a threat to us"

And in that sense it is true. Iran does not pose a threat to us on the scale that the Soviet Union did. Iran does not have the means to make the earth a wasteland and kill us all. They would potentially have the means to strike against Israel and that would involve us in a greater Middle Eastern war. I would personally hope that we could avoid such a thing by reconsidering our policy with Israel and take a more balanced approach to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict which is now and continue to be the match that will light the fuse.


I don't fault Obama for finding a bit of light on Iran, as it appears he's done in regard to assessing their threat. And, I think it was an absurd comparison he made back in the spring. The strategy of President Bush regarding Iran has not been a Soviet-era type of strategy. His premise was faulty there. But, it is academic now. Iran has nuclear capabilities and will, by even the most ardent pacificist and global-minded scholars, have delivery capabilities soon. Obama has responded with this "umbrella" offer, for what its worth to Israel. The real fact is that Iran is a nuclear power, period. That they're not capable as Russia was to deliver on their threats is a moot point. They have them, and they are dangerous people hell bent on destroying Israel.

Now, as to our balance in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: Oh boy. We won't serve any good by discussing balance in policy. The issues are far too complex for that. One part of it is the sheer determination to destroy Israel that exists among its enemies, such as Iran, without any real regard for the Palestinians. That conflict is a pretext, a sham, a cover for aggression by the likes of Iran and Syria. I'm not defending Israel, nor do I say Israel has clean hands --- it patently does not. But, if we act as if Israel's insecurity is caused by its treatment of the Palestinians, we're kidding ourselves. As long as Jewish feet walk anywhere from the Tigris and Euphrates to the Mediterranean, the Arabs and Persians will threaten and work to cut them off.
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Iran not a threat

Postby Dr. Ron » December 11th, 2008, 7:55 am

Sorry.....to you all. Your sarcasm is supposed to be easily recognized but ours is obviously not acceptable.

The "kool aid" thing is a throw back to the dems lines during the "great lie fest of 2007/08. They have already fallen apart and no one seems to get it.

Anyway.....yes all God's children can "get along"......but we are not required to.....I love it.
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Postby crispfin » December 11th, 2008, 8:00 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Sorry.....to you all. Your sarcasm is supposed to be easily recognized but ours is obviously not acceptable.

The "kool aid" thing is a throw back to the dems lines during the "great lie fest of 2007/08. They have already fallen apart and no one seems to get it.

Anyway.....yes all God's children can "get along"......but we are not required to.....I love it.

I guess that's just the way it is then.

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Postby Full Quiver » December 11th, 2008, 1:15 pm

Actually the Imams run the country, and who knows what they really want? The president is an unpopular man who talks big, but does not really have the means to back it up.



And where do we get this proof? The same news outlets that say they are hell bent on destroying Israel and the US. They may not be capable to do so today but those that are willing will find a way unless we strong arm them.

Tim, I love Pat Buchanan. I voted for him in 2000 and wish he had won. I do believe we would not be having this argument today, that OBL would be dead, but nevertheless we would have wars and rumors of wars because both parties have had administrations that went to war for some reason or another for as long as we can remember.
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Postby Tim Elston » December 11th, 2008, 3:47 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Tim, I love Pat Buchanan.


Me, too. Almost every time I've heard him speak, he's been right. He's a sharp, level-headed guy. I wish they'd have an election between him and Ron Paul. Now, that would be a sweet choice. Though, of course, the minute I say that, someone's going to bring up a Buchanan skeleton that I didn't know about.
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