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Mike Vande wrote:The only word for 2008 now is "over", and I might add, "Thank God!"
In 2008, I managed to plow through some of the worst situations I have had to deal with in the last 20 years, praise God for carrying me. My biggest hope for 2009 is that He doesn't have to bring me through more of the same, or worse.
Oh well, at least I haven't been bored...
Dr. Ron wrote:Not to be sarcastic or snide, but this could apply to any year in any church and is very ambiguous.
I don't rely on much of this sweeping generalization. I do know that sometimes a word has been given to us and it has been very specific and was always confirmed with happening.....
No offense intended, but this seemed rather trite to me.
I will pull together ministries to fulfill my plan and purpose. With my plan in motion there will be less commotion.
TW wrote:A few quick comments on the material Jennifer has presented.
As Dr. Ron pointed out, much is generalizations and could be applied to any church or denomination. The economics shouldn't suprise anybody. Leaders come and leaders go, that holds true in religious communities as well as secular ones.
What bothers me most about this "word" is the "I" factor. "I" am going to do this , and "I" am going to do that. The very arrogant statement:I will pull together ministries to fulfill my plan and purpose. With my plan in motion there will be less commotion.
Now I must ask, where is God in all of this? Shouldn't he be working on God's plan and purpose? Then he continues with more "I"s.
He finishes with the conclusion that if you don't follow him, you have missed God's calling!
Yeah, right!
I think that I'll let God continue to open doors for me, and follow where He leads.
TW
"I" will challenge "my" people to a new level of commitment this year. "I will push them" beyond their ability into possibilities.
Jennifer Smith wrote:I do hope 2009 our burdens will be lighter though!
(Sorry I have a cliche for every occasion! J/K )![]()
TW wrote:A few quick comments on the material Jennifer has presented.
As Dr. Ron pointed out, much is generalizations and could be applied to any church or denomination. The economics shouldn't suprise anybody. Leaders come and leaders go, that holds true in religious communities as well as secular ones.
What bothers me most about this "word" is the "I" factor. "I" am going to do this , and "I" am going to do that. The very arrogant statement:I will pull together ministries to fulfill my plan and purpose. With my plan in motion there will be less commotion.
Now I must ask, where is God in all of this? Shouldn't he be working on God's plan and purpose? Then he continues with more "I"s.
He finishes with the conclusion that if you don't follow him, you have missed God's calling!
Yeah, right!
I think that I'll let God continue to open doors for me, and follow where He leads.
TW
TW wrote:I'm sorry but the author of this writes in the first person, and never gives any indication of switching to the second person, so one who reads it would naturally assume that the entire piece is in the first person. I went to this Church's website and read another piece by this same author, a piece in which they clearly indicate when they are switching persons in their narrative.
Jennifer, as far as this church having "prophetic training classes," allow me to relate my personal experience with this type of class. The church in which I was saved, had for a while a "School of Prophets." I took these classes, and I can tell you they are bunk! How do you train someone to be a Prophet? To my knowledge God is the one who determines to whom He will give prophetic visions. God is the one who give another the ability to interpret the vision. Not some preacher, but God. I don't believe that God looks at your resume to see if you attended a School of Prophets. If that were the case, then the student with the straight A average would get all the best prophecies. The one thing that I do know, and I didn't need to attend a special school to learn this is, "If you say that God said something, and He didn't say it, your in real deep trouble!!!"
TW
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