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Postby Tim Elston » January 12th, 2009, 4:10 pm

crispfin wrote:I would find the spending of that much money to try to keep her a virgin indefensible. Far too many other pressing needs in the world to try and keep some dumb chick pure.


I thought the same thing, crispfin. It would be a very poor stewardship decision. Zealous, but not wise.
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Postby MacUser » January 13th, 2009, 4:05 am

crispfin wrote:Far too many other pressing needs in the world to try and keep some dumb chick pure.


Ahh.. but if this became a LEARNING situation for Christ's love to be shown to MANY... then I could see offering a scholarship to have an effective witness slam dunk for Christ. Imagine the message this would send to little girls everywhere? You are loved by Christ. You are valuable for whom you are and not for what services you can render.

I wonder if Christ would say to you.. "Hey, that price is to HIGH to pay to keep DUMB CRISPFIN out of hell?". No.. He did it anyway for you.. and it was an incredible, outrageous high price to pay and he did it for ALL of us.

The disciples balked at the woman with the expensive box of perfume and stated it as a waste on Christ's feet. He rejected that line of thinking and said she would ALWAYS be remembered for this generous act.

This could be such a Christ witnessing moment that reaches farther than this one cherished young women.
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Postby A2JGirl » January 13th, 2009, 4:07 am

I agree with you, Macuser!

Didn't make much sense for Hosea to marry Gomer, either.

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Re: Virginity auctioned

Postby bibleguy » January 13th, 2009, 4:56 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Hey Tim, you are so right../........my wife is extremly low maintenance.

I will not have made a million by the time I die.


I'm currently working on my second million.

They say that one's easier anyways, so I figure I'll get that one ... and then go back to work on my first million later.
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Postby bibleguy » January 13th, 2009, 5:07 am

Tim Elston wrote:
crispfin wrote:I would find the spending of that much money to try to keep her a virgin indefensible. Far too many other pressing needs in the world to try and keep some dumb chick pure.


I thought the same thing, crispfin. It would be a very poor stewardship decision. Zealous, but not wise.


This has been tried in the anti-abortion movement. Trying to offer the pregnant mothers options, counselling. When comparing the abortions prevented to the ones carried through, it is evident that far more people gravitate to wickedness. That fact does not necessarily mean the effort is entirely in vain, and some feel led to work in that field, though that is not my calling.

All the money in the world thrown at this girl won't do her a bit of good if she does not accept Christ, because she'll just celebrate by going out and giving it up for free.

I agree that such an attempt to purchase this girls freedom would make a statement, and I would not rule it out as foolish, but, on the other hand, it would be a faint echo ...

That statement was already made -- loud and clear -- on the cross of Calvary.

I would have to submit that this girl's virginity, as every girl's, is priceless. We need to teach our children that it is a priceless, precious gift that they should offer only to their spouse, and it should not be casually dismissed as a common trinket.
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Postby crispfin » January 13th, 2009, 6:26 am

MacUser wrote:Ahh.. but if this became a LEARNING situation for Christ's love to be shown to MANY... then I could see offering a scholarship to have an effective witness slam dunk for Christ. Imagine the message this would send to little girls everywhere? You are loved by Christ. You are valuable for whom you are and not for what services you can render.

I wonder if Christ would say to you.. "Hey, that price is to HIGH to pay to keep DUMB CRISPFIN out of hell?". No.. He did it anyway for you.. and it was an incredible, outrageous high price to pay and he did it for ALL of us.

The disciples balked at the woman with the expensive box of perfume and stated it as a waste on Christ's feet. He rejected that line of thinking and said she would ALWAYS be remembered for this generous act.

This could be such a Christ witnessing moment that reaches farther than this one cherished young women.

I would find it impossible to look the countless sick, homeless, dying, hungry, addicted, and countless other people in need such a large amount of money could help in the eye and say that paying this girl off is worth more than all of their suffering combined. It's a value judgment, I know, but despite the preciousness of one person's virginity, it does not come anywhere close to those other needs in my eyes.

Note: I do apologize for referring to this girl as a "dumb chick". I think her actions are wrong and the idea is foolish, but I should not be calling her names.

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Postby MacUser » January 13th, 2009, 6:37 am

This is just an opportunity. To zero in on a slipperly slope here.

You only think of saving this one, I think of many hearing this message of Christ's love on THIS topic and saving many and thus a litany of other issues that result.

Bottom up repair doesn't always work either. Let's try a saving message before they hit the bottom for a change? eh?

Remember Christ can multiply a small meal into one that feeds THOUSANDS.

Again, this is just a PRIME opportunity for a Christian School, College, University or Ministry. Not to pay the outrageous amount.. but PUBLICLY offer alternative.

USE this to reach the women pondering this... even if this poor child goes thru with it.
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Postby crispfin » January 13th, 2009, 6:49 am

MacUser wrote:This is just an opportunity. To zero in on a slipperly slope here.

You only think of saving this one, I think of many hearing this message of Christ's love on THIS topic and saving many and thus a litany of other issues that result.

Bottom up repair doesn't always work either. Let's try a saving message before they hit the bottom for a change? eh?

Remember Christ can multiply a small meal into one that feeds THOUSANDS.

Again, this is just a PRIME opportunity for a Christian School, College, University or Ministry. Not to pay the outrageous amount.. but PUBLICLY offer alternative.

USE this to reach the women pondering this... even if this poor child goes thru with it.

What you are talking of doing has the potential to do good things. But I feel that doing immediate good, good that is directly done for many and not relying on a causal chain to do eventual good is the better choice. Again, this a matter of perspective. We see two different ways of doing good. I just happen to prefer my take.

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Postby Dr. Ron » January 13th, 2009, 7:12 am

One thing that no-one has mentioned.

This "dumb chick" obviously has some moral compass to have kept her virginity all through college. This is certainly not the norm .....especially for someone with her looks.

So, there must be something morally grounded there......and now it has become driven off course.

While I don't know that offering her a scholarship to "don't do it Ethel" is a resonable issue or not, I still am not sure that she isn't worth the effort to save her in some way....

Just a thought.....
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Postby Ilovebigcats » January 13th, 2009, 8:23 am

Isn't this prostitution?

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Postby bibleguy » January 13th, 2009, 9:37 am

Dr. Ron wrote:One thing that no-one has mentioned.

This "dumb chick" obviously has some moral compass to have kept her virginity all through college. This is certainly not the norm .....especially for someone with her looks.

So, there must be something morally grounded there......and now it has become driven off course.


College campus liberality the culprit?
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Postby Pastor Gary » January 13th, 2009, 10:26 am

Ilovebigcats wrote:Isn't this prostitution?


It is the definition of prostitution. The girl said her SISTER worked as a prostitute for 3 months to pay her tuition bills off, and the virgin is working with a legal (Nevada) brothel to facilitate her sale.
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Postby PastorDaniel » January 13th, 2009, 5:10 pm

beckrl wrote:Isn't prostitution illegal? :shock:


It is...but I found through easy research that she is going through the Bunny Ranch in Nevada where prostitution is legal in certain areas with a license and she got the license....and it will take place there....:shock:
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Postby Full Quiver » January 14th, 2009, 12:37 pm

I don't know what all the fuss is about. Many a girl have "auctioned" off their virginity for much less like a movie and a meal or even the promise of a better life. I'm serious!!!

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Postby JohnDB » January 14th, 2009, 2:20 pm

Full Quiver wrote:I don't know what all the fuss is about. Many a girl have "auctioned" off their virginity for much less like a movie and a meal or even the promise of a better life. I'm serious!!!


Or even much less than that...for a trite and overused lie/line.

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