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Oprah's False Teachers

Postby beckrl » January 16th, 2009, 7:07 am

Anyone seen this are read the transcripts. Unbelieveable.
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Rev. Ed Bacon during a discussion on spirituality. After hearing from Sedrick, who says he had a tough adolescence growing up as a gay teen in rural Alabama, the Rev. Bacon said something Oprah says she has never heard a minister say. “Being gay is a gift from God,” the Rev. Bacon said. “But our culture doesn’t understand that.

The Rev. Bacon (in clip): Being gay is a gift from God. But our culture doesn't understand that. And consequently, the culture sends messages that you ought to isolate. And isolation is the antithesis of what all of us need.

Oprah (in clip): Well, you are the first minister I ever heard say being gay is a gift from God, I can tell you that.

Michael (in clip): Now you'll hear two.

Oprah (in clip): Now you'll hear two. Okay.

Michael (in clip): Now you'll hear two. And that has nothing to do—

Oprah(in clip): You are the first two ministers I ever heard say being gay is a gift from God. (Live) John from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, is on the phone. Hi, John.


http://www.oprah.com/article/spirit/20090114_sas_transcript/3

To further explain his comment, the Rev. Bacon joins Oprah via satellite. “I meant exactly what I said,” he says. “It is so important for every human being to understand that he or she is a gift from God.”

Some may say Oh he meant to say all people are a gift from God , but as you read Oprah and the two Rev's make it clear what they meant.

God does not “gift” people with sin. The wages (or payment) for sin is death, but God’s gift is eternal life. Of course, that eternal life comes through repentance and acceptance of Christ. Romans 6:23
All people are ’gifts’ from God. Behold, children are a gift from God. Psalms 127:3 Thus, the significant difference is saying that sin is a gift as opposed to a person being a gift.


The problem with this is that many people who watch Oprah show will believe this lie.

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Postby bibleguy » January 16th, 2009, 7:54 am

These "ministers" have fashioned a god according to their own will. In our modern society, we have put more emphasis on the opinion of society and how "tolerant" we are perceived, and less on the actual content of the Word of God.

As Christians embrace heresies and "innocent" practices such as Yoga, we become more and more confused, and more receptive to such tripe as is being dished out by these heretical clergy.

BTW, I'm sick of Christians being accused of lack of love for our stand against sin. Christ's life and ultimate death, while being the quintessencial stand against sin, was also the quintessencial expression of love. It is out of true love that I denounce all lifestyles that are alternative to that which God set forth in His word.
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Postby beckrl » January 16th, 2009, 8:33 am

bibleguy, I feel the same and what you said,
As Christians embrace heresies and "innocent" practices such as Yoga, we become more and more confused, and more receptive to such tripe as is being dished out by these heretical clergy

It does I guess confuse alot of people like Oprah herself. I see her been open to alot of heresies thinking. In that she is getting slower to God some how. These so call ministers are no more that false teachers (wolves).


I'm sick of Christians being accused of lack of love for our stand against sin


I see this with "Grace and Forgiveness" That some think some how allows one to continue in sin! When the bible totally tells us different, I'm sick of people saying that I have no love for the lost when I stand again sin.
As in this case.

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Postby bibleguy » January 16th, 2009, 9:02 am

Oprah's views are more in line with Buddhism and "many paths," as shown in this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwGLNbiw1gk

What got her to question her Christianity? It was when she heard a sermon about God, and the preacher quoted the scripture "the Lord thy God is a jealous God."

The other video contains a question to Oprah about her Christianity (2:51) and Oprah's response (3:12). The video in its entirety helps shed some light on Oprah's belief system. She says, "If God for you is still about a belief, then its not truly God." The Church of Oprah Exposed
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Postby free » January 16th, 2009, 11:42 am

Would anyone expect anything less from Oprah? This is why I refuse to watch her show or to support anything she is associated with.

By the way, I just heard that Oprah was arrested in a Chicago airport...The police found 30 pounds of crack in her pants! :shock:

One of my members told me that the other day so I thought I'd share it.
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Postby Brenda » January 16th, 2009, 4:28 pm

What got her to question her Christianity? It was when she heard a sermon about God, and the preacher quoted the scripture "the Lord thy God is a jealous God."

The preacher should of went on to further explain what God was jealous about.
She took it as God was jealous of her having anything..thats what she said, "God is jealouse over me! He is jealous over what I have?!"
Instead of God being jealous in that she/we are to serve no other god. Putting anything before Him.
Which I believe is one of the Ten Commandments. Exodus 20:5

Oprah has listened to sooo many false teachers on her show over the past years..
she has gotten totally confused and now has believed in a lie..and we know what happens to people who believe in lies.. they will be damned.
The Bible says not to be tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine and I think that is what has happened to her.

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Postby Tim Elston » January 16th, 2009, 5:23 pm

free wrote:By the way, I just heard that Oprah was arrested in a Chicago airport...The police found 30 pounds of crack in her pants! :shock:


Okay, I needed that laugh.
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Postby PastorDaniel » January 17th, 2009, 5:03 am

free wrote:By the way, I just heard that Oprah was arrested in a Chicago airport...The police found 30 pounds of crack in her pants! :shock:

One of my members told me that the other day so I thought I'd share it.


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Postby jessicacook » January 17th, 2009, 5:36 am

free wrote:By the way, I just heard that Oprah was arrested in a Chicago airport...The police found 30 pounds of crack in her pants! :shock:

One of my members told me that the other day so I thought I'd share it.


I heard it was 50 pounds! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby beckrl » January 17th, 2009, 8:07 am

I'm not so sure about that info of her getting arrested.

I'm not trying to spead any falsehood about her.
But as Brenda stated Oprah is in need of prayer for her beleifs.

Oprah has listened to sooo many false teachers on her show over the past years..
she has gotten totally confused and now has believed in a lie..and we know what happens to people who believe in lies.. they will be damned.
The Bible says not to be tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine and I think that is what has happened to her.



She has formed her on heresies doctrines out of this lies.

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Postby bibleguy » January 17th, 2009, 8:27 am

beckrl wrote:I'm not so sure about that info of her getting arrested.

I'm not trying to spead any falsehood about her.
But as Brenda stated Oprah is in need of prayer for her beleifs.

Oprah has listened to sooo many false teachers on her show over the past years..
she has gotten totally confused and now has believed in a lie..and we know what happens to people who believe in lies.. they will be damned.
The Bible says not to be tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine and I think that is what has happened to her.



She has formed her on heresies doctrines out of this lies.


This provoked a question in my mind. Honestly, I am asking this question for honest answers.

Jesus talks about leaving the 99 sheep and going out to find and save the 1 lost. We hear a lot about this idea, and it is the popular thought.

OK. My question. Is there ever a occassion to stop praying for someone's salvation, and pray (as David - a man after God's heart) for God to remove the enemies of His people?

Oprah reminds me of Jezebel. Jezebel was a queen over God's chosen people of Israel, but she taught them heresies, idolatry and immorality. Jehu prayed for her demise. Is there ever a place for us to call on God like that today?

I never hear that from the pulpit, and any negative statements about anyone or any group by prominent ministers is attacked by the media and usually results in a swift apology.

What do you think?
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Postby paul » January 17th, 2009, 9:40 am

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OK. My question. Is there ever a occassion to stop praying for someone's salvation, and pray (as David - a man after God's heart) for God to remove the enemies of His people?
Oprah reminds me of Jezebel. Jezebel was a queen over God's chosen people of Israel, but she taught them heresies, idolatry and immorality. Jehu prayed for her demise. Is there ever a place for us to call on God like that today?


Why would you ever want to, not, pray for her. Pray that the airwaves drop her program. Pray that people who watch her program, read her magazine, that their eyes would be opened. But why would we want to stop praying and believing for HER or anyone we think is an abomination?
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Postby beckrl » January 17th, 2009, 9:43 am

Then that would lead me to another question.
Would Oprah or anyone else ever change their way of thinking or beliefs?
I think some are deceived to the point of no return to the truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


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Postby paul » January 17th, 2009, 9:45 am

beckrl wrote:Then that would lead me to another question.
Would Oprah or anyone else ever change their way of thinking or beliefs?
I think some are deceived to the point of no return to the truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



Is that our call? WHo can know the heart of man, it is wicked at best.
You cannot effectively love and minister to others when you are obsessed with protecting

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Postby beckrl » January 17th, 2009, 9:50 am

paul wrote:
beckrl wrote:Then that would lead me to another question.
Would Oprah or anyone else ever change their way of thinking or beliefs?
I think some are deceived to the point of no return to the truth.

2 Thessalonians 2:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.



Is that our call? WHo can know the heart of man, it is wicked at best.


But there is a time for us to shake the dust off of own shoes and move on, right? Not to say that this is the case for Oprah, for I don't know her personally.


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