Happy Martin Luther King Day!

[Tim Elston]

It's great to have a holiday to recognize our nation's granting of civil liberties to its black citizens. And it's serendipitous that this holiday was scheduled to coincide with the presidential inauguration so that Martin Luther King's legacy and the inauguration of our first black president can be celebrated together. All other issues aside, the ascendence of our social ethos to elect a black president is something to be celebrated.

[Gerald Creasy]

Just curious Tim. How many "black people" do you know and see on a day to day basis?

I ask this cause for two years I was the only white kid in class in a predominantly black school, presently live in a 50/50 neighborhood, and interact at work on a daily basis.

[paul]

It's great to have a holiday to recognize our nation's granting of civil liberties to its black citizens. And it's serendipitous that this holiday was scheduled to coincide with the presidential inauguration so that Martin Luther King's legacy and the inauguration of our first black president can be celebrated together. All other issues aside, the ascendence of our social ethos to elect a black president is something to be celebrated.

Tim I agree with you statement. Politic's aside, it is a great day for our country.

[Tim Elston]

Just curious Tim. How many "black people" do you know and see on a day to day basis?

I ask this cause for two years I was the only white kid in class in a predominantly black school, presently live in a 50/50 neighborhood, and interact at work on a daily basis.

I'm not sure why this matters, but I talk with a black man named Fred on the bus nearly every work day. When I was in Chicago I had daily interaction with three black women named Beverly, Pat and Deana. I assume that since you know a lot of black people you are glad that they have civil rights equal to yours and thus celebrate Martin Luther King's legacy in that respect.

[DaJudge]

I think Dr. King was a great leader and I celebrate his accomplishments. However, I think he would be appalled at the behavior of race hucksters such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

[rjjunior]

It's great to have a holiday to recognize our nation's granting of civil liberties to its black citizens. And it's serendipitous that this holiday was scheduled to coincide with the presidential inauguration so that Martin Luther King's legacy and the inauguration of our first black president can be celebrated together. All other issues aside, the ascendence of our social ethos to elect a black president is something to be celebrated.

Agreed.

[free]

DaJudge wrote:

I think Dr. King was a great leader and I celebrate his accomplishments. However, I think he would be appalled at the behavior of race hucksters such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Agreed, but don't you think that our (white) founding fathers would just as appalled by the behavior of the white politicians in office today?

[paul]

DaJudge wrote:

I think Dr. King was a great leader and I celebrate his accomplishments. However, I think he would be appalled at the behavior of race hucksters such as Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.

Agreed, but don't you think that our (white) founding fathers would just as appalled by the behavior of the white politicians in office today?

[Poimen]

It is NOT a great day for our country. And any greatness such an event in it's purer form could have been is now forever tarnished by this fiasco.

If the black man elected president was not a morally bankrupt liberal who feigns the name of Christ then it would be a great day for our country. As it is both the office of president and the legacy of MLK Jr. are tarnished by their association with this man.

This is a day for mourning, not celebration.

[one love]

Happy Martin Luther King's day to you. I was watching a special on him last night.
Poimen I said this morning that I wish our first Black president would have been a conservative but I am still glad that people can see no matter what color or creed you can make it in America. Just because we disagree with him should not take away from this. You would not agree with Martin Luther King's politics either, however does that take away from all he did?

[DaJudge]

Happy Martin Luther King's day to you. I was watching a special on him last night.
Poimen I said this morning that I wish our first Black president would have been a conservative but I am still glad that people can see no matter what color or creed you can make it in America. Just because we disagree with him should not take away from this. You would not agree with Martin Luther King's politics either, however does that take away from all he did?

Totally agree, one love. I meant to watch that special on the History Channel last night but forgot. I hope they re-run it.

[Tim Elston]

This is a day for mourning, not celebration.

It would be difficult to let that be the last word on this thread. Martin Luther King was a womanizer, but with respect to civil liberties for black Americans he was a champion. Barack Obama's legacy as a president is yet to be determined, but with respect to America electing its first black president tomorrow's inauguration is a powerful symbol of MLK's best legacy. I celebrate that.

[paul]

It is NOT a great day for our country. And any greatness such a event in it's purer form could have been is now forever tarnished by this fiasco.

If the black man elected president was not a morally bankrupt liberal who feigns the name of Christ then it would be a great day for our country. As it is both the office of president and the legacy of MLK Jr. are tarnished by their association with this man.

This is a day for mourning, not celebration.

So to borrow from another thread. Will you be praying for him, his success, that the office will shape him. That if the scripture is true That God hold's the hearts of the kings ( leaders) in His hand, that God purpose can be accomplished regardless ?

[DaJudge]

Agreed, but don't you think that our (white) founding fathers would just as appalled by the behavior of the white politicians in office today?

I think they would be appalled at our courts banning prayer in schools. I think they would be appalled at our politicians promoting abortion on demand and gay marriage. I think that the welfare state and the size of the federal government would make them do cartwheels in their graves. So, the answer to your question is yes.

[Poimen]

So to borrow from another thread. Will you be praying for him, his success, that the office will shape him. That if the scripture is true That God hold's the hearts of the kings ( leaders) in His hand, that God purpose can be accomplished regardless ?

Absolutely! I already pray for him and for the influence his adminstartion will have on our nation, that we lead quite and peaceful lives, etc. However, I don't take that as divine condoning of a Leader's views, actions, or policies. Nor does it mean I have to like, admire, or even respect those things about his leadership ... anymore than Isreal did Pharoah, early Christians Domition and Nero, or our founding fathers King George the Tyrant.

Is the concept that a black man can be elected president in the USA good? YES! Especially considering the dark years of civil rights with regard to Black Americans. But when the black man elected is a liberal, humanistic, universalistic religious, socialistic leaning condoner of murder, subjugation of the poor, defender of the perveted and immoral, then NO, a thousand times NO, this is not a day for celebration of the election and forthcoming inauguration of Barack Obama. This is a time for mourning, for weeping, and for repentance.

His election, his platform, and his ideals, are anti-American, anti-Christian, and diametrically opposed to the moral rightness that Civil liberties secured because of the actions of those like MLK Jr. should have effected among Americans, much less black Americans.