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[one love]

I sold one very similar to this, was a great gun

I have a CZ-75 and I love it. I like having a manual safety (Glock doesn't). Do a little research on negligent/accidental discharges and I think you'll find that Glock leads in that category. Glocks are excellent handguns but I wouldn't recommend one as a first.
My daughter is also in the market for a pistol and she's considering a CZ 2075 Rami or Taurus Millennium Pro.
On the subject of caliber, 9mm has been around forever and ammo is plentiful and always available. 40 S&W is sort of a new kid on the block and while it's popular now, it may not always be. If things really go bad supplies of the less abundant ammo will be exhausted first.

I regret getting rid of my CZ that was a great shooting gun. Very accurate and yes a little more safe to carry loaded and cocked. I love the glock still but yes there is no safety so if it is cocked you better be ready to shoot. The safety on the cz was in a great place as well because you could walk around with it cocked and the safety on (say if you thought someone was breaking in) if you needed to fire your thumb can release that safety.

I only paid around $477-$550 for that CZ as well.

If you are going to go to the range a lot Danny, that is when I say the glock above all else. If it is just protection and you want some safety features (not just a internal safety) maybe something else would be better like a berretta or a cz taurus

[Full Quiver]

I have to have a safety. I thought glocks were plastic and therefore capable or more capable of having probs. I ws thinking Smith and Wesson.

Eager, the egger may try entrance into our home next. The person had to be very close to our door to do what he/she did.

[bibleguy]

My suggestion? Buy one of each and buy them quickly. You may lose your chance.

That's what they're thinking in Oklahoma. There has been a run on guns & ammo stores all over the state. Even though they passed a constitutional amendment in November ensuring the right of Oklahomans to possess guns, with "reasonable licensing" or something.

[Full Quiver]

Ok I was told today by two guys that Glocks actually have 3 safety mechanisms. So which is it?

[macgulley]

Ok I was told today by two guys that Glocks actually have 3 safety mechanisms. So which is it?

Glocks do have three safety mechanisms, however all are inactivated when the trigger is pulled. There is no manual safety. If you accidentally keep your finger on the trigger as you reholster, the gun will fire. If something gets caught in the trigger guard as you reholster, the gun will fire. (One example: http://www.thegunzone.com/mos/ad.html
To me, a manual safety is an extra level of security that gives me peace of mind.

[one love]

I have to have a safety. I thought glocks were plastic and therefore capable or more capable of having probs. I ws thinking Smith and Wesson.

Eager, the egger may try entrance into our home next. The person had to be very close to our door to do what he/she did.

As a note glock has one of the best records of NOT having problems or misfiring. Only part of the gun is plastic, the entire firing portion is not.

Look at the bottom half of the gun.

Now if you are not going to keep in cocked all the time they are safe, I sleep with one in my reach at all times

It is a internal safety. I would not cock any gun at all times external safety or not.

Go to a firing range and rent and FIRE every gun they have to rent, after doing this multiple times then buy your gun. I shot well over 20 guns before I bought one.


Here is some info:

TRIGGER SYSTEM
The “Safe Action” system is a partly tensioned firing pin lock, which is moved further back by the trigger bar when the trigger is pulled.
When the trigger is pulled, 3 safety features are automatically deactivated one after another. When doing so, the trigger bar is deflected downward by the connector and the firing pin is released under full load. When the trigger is released, all three safety features re-engage and the GLOCK pistol is automatically secured again.

TRIGGER SAFETY
As the first of the three GLOCK “Safe Action” safety features, the trigger safety prevents inadvertent firing by lateral forces on the trigger. Releasing the trigger will automatically reactivate the safety.

FIRING PIN SAFETY
The GLOCK firing pin safety is a solid hardened steel pin which, in the secured state, blocks the firing pin channel, rendering the igniting of a chambered cartridge by the firing pin impossible. The firing pin safety is only pushed upward to release the firing pin for firing when the trigger is pulled and the safety is pushed up through the backward movement of the trigger bar. Releasing the trigger will automatically reactivate the firing pin safety.

DROP SAFETY
In the line of duty it may happen that a loaded pistol is dropped on the floor. Contrary to conventional pistols, the GLOCK drop safety prevents unintentional firing of a shot through hard impact. When the trigger is pulled, the trigger bar is guided in a precision safety ramp. The trigger bar is deflected from this ramp only in the moment the shot is triggered.

[macgulley]

Now if you are not going to keep in cocked all the time they are safe, I sleep with one in my reach at all times

It is a internal safety. I would not cock any gun at all times external safety or not.

So you keep your chamber empty?

[one love]

Now if you are not going to keep in cocked all the time they are safe, I sleep with one in my reach at all times

It is a internal safety. I would not cock any gun at all times external safety or not.

So you keep your chamber empty?

Well depends.. I have a revolver .38 special snub (not good for the range but just a gun i like) That is placed somewhere safe loaded and ready.

It takes me NO time almost instant to load one in the chamber of my glock, Yes I keep the Magazine in it ready to go, If I hear something whether or not my ROTTWEILER hears it or not, I grab it and cock the pistol. I would never leave one in the chamber at all times. I have a GLOCK holster that is safe to have one in the chamber.

[Full Quiver]

I'm confused

[macgulley]

I agree with one love on this point:

Go to a firing range and rent and FIRE every gun they have to rent, after doing this multiple times then buy your gun. I shot well over 20 guns before I bought one.

I don't know anything about these folks but here's a range where you can rent handguns:
http://www.guncity.net/nashvillefiringrange.htm
They have classes, too but they are pretty pricey.
The classes at this place sound better (and less expensive) but it's farther from you (I think).
http://www.prifirearmstraining.com/courses.html
Ask around, I'm sure you know some people who are into guns and would be interested in taking you to the range and helping you make the right decision.

[macgulley]

Here's another suggestion, go to an IDPA (International Defensive Pistol Association) match and talk to folks there. You will be able to see many firearms and talk to people who are very knowledgeable. This range has monthly matches and I'm sure you'd be welcome to attend:
http://www.gallatingun.com/