Interesting or Disturbing?

Sherry · Postby **Sherry** » January 27th, 2009, 8:05 am

Do you find this disturbing? First official TV interview of the President and it's not with an American news agency. Also, if you notice, not a whole lot of coverage of this story.....I saw a blurb of it last night as the closing remarks of Nightline. Found this this morning.....

Obama Signals New Tone in Relations With Islamic World

bibleguy · Postby **bibleguy** » January 27th, 2009, 8:14 am

Not so much disturbing as it is revealing (I mean in terms of what I expect from my president). I know some people think we need to just relax and not get too worked up, but there is a global agenda and this plays into that.

I know that there is a danger of getting wrapped up in conspiracy theories. I am trying not to do that, but only watch and interpret the pattern of activity.

Thanks for the news item...

DaJudge · Postby **DaJudge** » January 27th, 2009, 8:31 am

bibleguy wrote:Not so much disturbing as it is revealing (I mean in terms of what I expect from my president).

Exactly my thoughts. If I were an Israeli, I would be worried. They no longer have a friend in the White House.

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » January 27th, 2009, 10:42 am

DaJudge wrote: If I were an Israeli, I would be worried. They no longer have a friend in the White House.

As much as I think most of what is typed on here about Obama are gross overreactions of the man's presidency so far, you hit this one right on the head DG.

I feel very bad for Israel.

Gerald Creasy · Postby **Gerald Creasy** » January 27th, 2009, 11:03 am

EagerBeaver wrote:As much as I think most of what is typed on here about Obama are gross overreactions of the man's presidency so far, you hit this one right on the head DG.

I feel very bad for Israel.

OH GOD WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE

GRAB YER GUNS

STOCKPILE FOOD

THE END IS NEAR

Sherry · Postby **Sherry** » January 27th, 2009, 11:25 am

EagerBeaver wrote:
DaJudge wrote: If I were an Israeli, I would be worried. They no longer have a friend in the White House.

As much as I think most of what is typed on here about Obama are gross overreactions of the man's presidency so far, you hit this one right on the head DG.

I feel very bad for Israel.

I didn't see anything in my post that cried an overreaction, I asked a question. Never stated my feelings, though I will now.

I find it interesting. I believe there is a lot of surprises to be had from our new president. Whether that is good or bad, I guess we will have to see, won't we?

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » January 27th, 2009, 11:36 am

Beave.....you drank the cool aide....nothing anyone says about God Obama is valid to you...

I won't bash him anymore,. He is taking care of that for himself.....but two years from now, I don't want to hear anyone beating him down.

Just bow and worship.....(now you know sarcasm better than Tim, I hope).

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » January 27th, 2009, 11:38 am

YellowRose wrote:
EagerBeaver wrote:
DaJudge wrote: If I were an Israeli, I would be worried. They no longer have a friend in the White House.

As much as I think most of what is typed on here about Obama are gross overreactions of the man's presidency so far, you hit this one right on the head DG.

I feel very bad for Israel.

I didn't see anything in my post that cried an overreaction, I asked a question. Never stated my feelings, though I will now.

I find it interesting. I believe there is a lot of surprises to be had from our new president. Whether that is good or bad, I guess we will have to see, won't we?

Sorry YR i was talking about the gist of the Obama posts around here on Jude 2 in general.

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » January 27th, 2009, 11:39 am

Dr. Ron wrote:Beave.....you drank the cool aide....nothing anyone says about God Obama is valid to you...

I won't bash him anymore,. He is taking care of that for himself.....but two years from now, I don't want to hear anyone beating him down.

Just bow and worship.....(now you know sarcasm better than Tim, I hope).

Dr. Ron don't make that assumption. I know you're a pastor and all but I'm smarter than that.

Look I don't like the guy anymore than you do but for folks to sit here hee hawing about how he won the election and he is going to lead us down the wrong path is getting tiresome.

We all knew what was going to happen once he won. Israel has their King, now let's live with the consequences of our nation's sin.

Instead of brooding and hee hawing, maybe we should all look as to why the social and moral state of America is the way it is now...the church collectively failed to do its job. End of story.

Sherry · Postby **Sherry** » January 27th, 2009, 11:40 am

EagerBeaver wrote:
YellowRose wrote:
EagerBeaver wrote:
DaJudge wrote: If I were an Israeli, I would be worried. They no longer have a friend in the White House.

As much as I think most of what is typed on here about Obama are gross overreactions of the man's presidency so far, you hit this one right on the head DG.

I feel very bad for Israel.

I didn't see anything in my post that cried an overreaction, I asked a question. Never stated my feelings, though I will now.

I find it interesting. I believe there is a lot of surprises to be had from our new president. Whether that is good or bad, I guess we will have to see, won't we?

Sorry YR i was talking about the gist of the Obama posts around here on Jude 2 in general.

Thanks for clearing that up. :wink:

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » January 27th, 2009, 12:01 pm

Beave.....

It's no problem with me......I just think we all have a right to opine in any way we desire...and I don't like being made to feel that I am not giving the guy a break...

How he won will always be questionable to me with the ACORN issues as well as many others. It was not a landslide popular vote....

Having said that, his executive order for the abortion issue has canceled him out of my respect column....president or no..I pray for all our leaders every day....I will pray only that he fail in his policies that would further bring persecution to the church /christianity. I want him to succeed in turning his mind around.....not to become a republican....(which I am not) but to see that Socialism is evil....Islam is evil...

God give us another Regan who will say boldly and without apology .....The Evil Empire.......

No I have no respect for him .....so I likely shall not engage in any more conversation about him with any one on here.

bibleguy · Postby **bibleguy** » January 27th, 2009, 3:30 pm

Dr. Ron wrote:Beave.....

It's no problem with me......I just think we all have a right to opine in any way we desire...and I don't like being made to feel that I am not giving the guy a break...

How he won will always be questionable to me with the ACORN issues as well as many others. It was not a landslide popular vote....

Having said that, his executive order for the abortion issue has canceled him out of my respect column....president or no..I pray for all our leaders every day....I will pray only that he fail in his policies that would further bring persecution to the church /christianity. I want him to succeed in turning his mind around.....not to become a republican....(which I am not) but to see that Socialism is evil....Islam is evil...

God give us another Regan who will say boldly and without apology .....The Evil Empire.......

No I have no respect for him .....so I likely shall not engage in any more conversation about him with any one on here.

As president of the U.S. he is granted honor. But respect is earned. God help Obama earn our respect. (as unlikely as that may appear).

Tim Elston · Postby **Tim Elston** » January 27th, 2009, 4:19 pm

bibleguy wrote:God help Obama earn our respect. (as unlikely as that may appear).

Some people here will never give respect to Obama, either when it's due or when it's not. Obama has already done things worthy of respect, but because some people are predisposed to disrespecting him, they focus on insignificant things for which to chide him. Rather than "God help Obama earn our respect," it should be "God help us not to be petty." Or maybe it's both, but from what I can tell more of the latter is needed.

KBevangelist · Postby **KBevangelist** » January 27th, 2009, 5:44 pm

DaJudge wrote:
bibleguy wrote:Not so much disturbing as it is revealing (I mean in terms of what I expect from my president).

Exactly my thoughts. If I were an Israeli, I would be worried. They no longer have a friend in the White House.

I agree!!!!

KB

Dr. Ron · Postby **Dr. Ron** » January 28th, 2009, 5:15 am

Tim,
Once again I am goaded into responding to your assertion that abortion is petty. That one thing alone stands as an impediment to my giving him or anyone who will vote for it or even accept it as an option, my respect.

I owe him nor any other president respect. I respect ONLY the office he holds. I am not required to respect the man in the office and I certainly do not. In four years he will grant "same sex marriage". He is what he is.....and what he is I cannot abide.

Please do not try to make it appear that I am a dim-witted right wing idiot who follows the "holy grail" of conservativism. Yes, there may be some things he will get right.....so far.....not yet...

I know the Gitmo thing hit your hot button.....but it will come back to haunt us all.

Beave. No need to try and patronize me with the " I know you are a pastor" thing.....don't work son.

Jude 2