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Pastor Bill wrote:I think that all depends on how close they want to walk. Frankly I know it's cliche' but we can't out-do God.
Messianic Believer wrote:Using the analogy of a shepherd an sheep, it is not the shepherd's job to "feed" the sheep.
It is his responsibility to lead them to a field that has nourishing food in it, that is free of weeds and poisonous plants, to make sure there is pure water to drink, and then to guard and protect them.
Once there, it is actually the sheep's responsibility to consume the food in the place where he has been led, to drink the refreshing water, and to not wander away outsie of the protection of the shepherd.
It is when the shepherd fails to lead them to the right field and water, and truly lays his life down for the flock; or when the sheep refuses to consume the food and water before it but constantly wanders off in search of something better that the problems begin.
There is responsibility on both sides, and each should do their part and not try to usurp the responsibilities of the other.
Messianic Believer wrote:Using the analogy of a shepherd an sheep, it is not the shepherd's job to "feed" the sheep.
It is his responsibility to lead them to a field that has nourishing food in it, that is free of weeds and poisonous plants, to make sure there is pure water to drink, and then to guard and protect them.
Once there, it is actually the sheep's responsibility to consume the food in the place where he has been led, to drink the refreshing water, and to not wander away outsie of the protection of the shepherd.
It is when the shepherd fails to lead them to the right field and water, and truly lays his life down for the flock; or when the sheep refuses to consume the food and water before it but constantly wanders off in search of something better that the problems begin.
There is responsibility on both sides, and each should do their part and not try to usurp the responsibilities of the other.

As mentioned the pastor isn't the feeder, but the one that leads in teh feeding, and as FQ says - should be accountable for that in that ministry.paul wrote:Another look at " I'm not being fed."
What do you think as a member is necessary to be properly, spiritually fed by the Pastor and the local church?
I don't expect some great nugget or wisdom, or word of knowledge each and every service I participate. but rather an overall-feeding as I participate in the fellowship and community of the local body of believers.What are you looking for ?
I can only answer for myself. and that is actually a very small part of the overall, balanced "meals". kinda like getting desert now and again.How much of the message is a part of that feeding ?
How much is fellowship a part of that feeding?
How much is bible study ( coorporate and private ) a part of that feeding ?
Again, in repeat - for me - there is little or no difference. as a wanabe archaeologist, etc. - the historicity and theological implications are applicable as they are learned - no need for me for special explanations of the layers of understanding.Are the sermons life applicable or just history and/or theological lessons?
Are the sermons based only on emotions ?
not the reason I go to church, so the question is not applicable. I go to church with the primary focus on serving, so that others get as much out of the services as possible. Do I get something/fed? sometimes, but again, not the reason for my attendance and participation.Do you leave church on Sunday knowing you have been empowered for the week ahead, or " Maybe it will be better next week?
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