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Postby RamboPreacher » March 12th, 2009, 1:31 pm

Rahab wrote:Rambo, I am reading the passage from the book now. It says he was off preaching somewhere when she died. Her body was taken back to their house for his return. She was lying on the bed when he rebuked death and ordered it to give her up. She then opened her eyes and asked him "Smith, what have you done.
oh, i believe you and what is in the book to be written, but that doesn't mean i have to believe the content of the book. :)
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Postby stevenson » March 12th, 2009, 1:58 pm

Dr. Ron,
Baptist? Smith Wigglesworth was never a Baptist. He was Methodist, did alot of time with the Salvation Army and then eventually became a Pentecostal having strong ties with the Assembly of God organization, although he remained independent.
He's books are awesome. Although he is known more for his healing ministry, he wrote about so much more. To read about his personal struggles when his wife died is so encouraging.
I would recommend that anyone in ministry should read at least one of his books!
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Postby one love » March 12th, 2009, 3:31 pm

stevenson wrote:Dr. Ron,
Baptist? Smith Wigglesworth was never a Baptist. He was Methodist, did alot of time with the Salvation Army and then eventually became a Pentecostal having strong ties with the Assembly of God organization, although he remained independent.
He's books are awesome. Although he is known more for his healing ministry, he wrote about so much more. To read about his personal struggles when his wife died is so encouraging.
I would recommend that anyone in ministry should read at least one of his books!



I love his books and the stories. I read once where he was in California and someone was stabbed. People were screaming, crying all around this victim. He walked right in the crowd and said " In the name of Jesus get up"
The victim stood up healed of those woods....just good Books!!


Rambo wrote:

but that doesn't mean i have to believe the content of the book



Rambo are you saying that you are doubting that it took place?

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Postby Mister Ed » March 12th, 2009, 3:47 pm

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" Rambo are you saying that you are doubting that it took place?"


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Postby RamboPreacher » March 12th, 2009, 4:01 pm

one love wrote:
stevenson wrote:Dr. Ron,
Baptist? Smith Wigglesworth was never a Baptist. He was Methodist, did alot of time with the Salvation Army and then eventually became a Pentecostal having strong ties with the Assembly of God organization, although he remained independent.
He's books are awesome. Although he is known more for his healing ministry, he wrote about so much more. To read about his personal struggles when his wife died is so encouraging.
I would recommend that anyone in ministry should read at least one of his books!



I love his books and the stories. I read once where he was in California and someone was stabbed. People were screaming, crying all around this victim. He walked right in the crowd and said " In the name of Jesus get up"
The victim stood up healed of those woods....just good Books!!


Rambo wrote:

but that doesn't mean i have to believe the content of the book



Rambo are you saying that you are doubting that it took place?
yes, doubting. am I saying they absolutely did not take place? - no.

but my example was a perfect example. Rahab has a pericope from a book. I heard it much differently from the pulpit that was supposed to be quoted from a book.
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Postby TW » March 12th, 2009, 4:55 pm

I'm probably going to catch a lot of heat for saying this.

While I have no doubt as to his being a man of great faith, and a powerful influence in the Pentecostal Movement. Smith Wigglesworth lived and ministered during a time when the Pentecostal Movement needed it's own "heros." Much of what is "known" about him is simply oral lore generated by his followers. I do doubt many of the miracles that have been attributed to him, as they are not verifiable. As I recall, when Jesus performed a miracle it was fairly public and quite verifiable. I don't recall a single person that Jesus raised from the dead that turned around and died again within minutes. I also cannot accept his views that sickness in a person's life was the result of sin. Some of the healthiest people that I know of are some of the biggest sinners that you could meet. If sin is the cause of sickness, then I must ask what sin was in Smith's life that caused his kidney stones in his later years.


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Postby Full Quiver » March 13th, 2009, 3:20 am

I too thought Smith was influential in the Assemblies of God and maybe even in the founding of that organization.

Some of those stories remind me of Bentley too.
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Postby Dr. Ron » March 13th, 2009, 8:26 am

I didn't mean to imply he was a baptist. What I meant was that I studied some of his works while I was in a baptist seminary. THEIR take on him was interesting to say the least but for sure they were not too critical.

I did not follow his career.....wasn't really that interested in the pedigree....still am not. That was just where I was introduced to him and his work...

I honestly always thought he was baptist because they required us to read his stuff.

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Postby stevenson » March 14th, 2009, 4:26 am

Don't make me take you off that pedastool! :D
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