Depression-recession Opinion Manipulating

[Gerald Creasy]

I heard something this Friday that made me aware JUST HOW MUCh Public Opinion is manipulated by the Politicians and the Obama Lap Dog Media.

It was in relation to the economic "contraction" experienced during the DEPRESSION.

That Contraction was 50%


Do you want to know what even the worst predict NOW??

Wanna take a guess?

I doubt you'll even be close.


3%


THREE PERCENT!!!

One Two THREE

3%


Whata bunch of whiney programable schmucks we are.

[dolfan]

It's crazy, ain't it?

[Tim Elston]

That's a worthwhile observation, Gerald. But the Great Depression lasted from 1929 to 1940, and if we apply last quarter's contraction rate of 6.2% over an eleven year period, the net contraction amounts to 50.5%.

That won't actually happen, though, because in the Great Depression the Fed did not manipulate interest rates downward and President Hoover fixed wages and imposed import tariffs during the first years, and increased taxes to make up for the deficit as the contraction was taking effect. This time the Fed has lowered interest rates to near zero, the government has thrown about $1.5 trillion into economic stimulus, and taxes have been cut, not increased.

Given the system, the actions that Obama and other G20 nations have taken are the causes of the expectation of only a 3% contraction. The actions are expected to arrest and reverse the recession. Had the Federal Reserve and the various governments, including Bush's and Obama's governments, not taken the actions they did, prognostications would, no doubt, be of a much greater overall contraction.

[Brian]

That's a worthwhile observation, Gerald. But the Great Depression lasted from 1929 to 1940, and if we apply last quarter's contraction rate of 6.2% over an eleven year period, the net contraction amounts to 50.5%.

That won't actually happen, though, because in the Great Depression the Fed did not manipulate interest rates downward and President Hoover fixed wages and imposed import tariffs during the first years, and increased taxes to make up for the deficit as the contraction was taking effect. This time the Fed has lowered interest rates to near zero, the government has thrown about $1.5 trillion into economic stimulus, and taxes have been cut, not increased.

Given the system, the actions that Obama and other G20 nations have taken are the causes of the expectation of only a 3% contraction. The actions are expected to arrest and reverse the recession. Had the Federal Reserve and the various governments, including Bush's and Obama's governments, not taken the actions they did, prognostications would, no doubt, be of a much greater overall contraction.

Hey Tim, I was able to see "The Obama Deception" by Alex Jones and it deals with this very stuff. I don't know if you know who Alex Jones is (I didn't until yesterday) and I can't say I agree with everything he says however he has some interesting points and accusations that I think warrent a closer look.
He is definately a conspericy theorist but heck so am I to some small degree. The movie deals with a supposed "shadow government" that is made up of the words private banking elites like the Federal Reserve Bank. I can definately see how he may come by some of his claims, just not sure I would take such an alarmist position on the stuff.

His web site is http://www.infowars.com/

I don't know everything that is on the site so if there is anything on there of questionable content please remove the link. Thanks

[Tim Elston]

Hey Tim, I was able to see "The Obama Deception" by Alex Jones and it deals with this very stuff. I don't know if you know who Alex Jones is (I didn't until yesterday) and I can't say I agree with everything he says however he has some interesting points and accusations that I think warrent a closer look.

Brian, I looked for an online video of "The Obama Deception" on his site but couldn't find one. Did you rent it from a video store or get access to it somehow else? A cursory glance at Jone's site looks to me like it's over the top, but that doesn't mean it's not worth giving a scrub. I think there is definitely a lot of hanky-panky going on at the top eschelons of power, but I usually don't come down on the side of the radical conspiracy theories. They mix a little bit of truth in with a lot of imagination. They thrive off of the power of suggestion rather than verifiable facts.

At any rate, I can understand your desire to distance yourself from it, but I still think that it's worth vetting. I'd like to watch the movie and see where it's coming from. Thanks for mentioning it.

[Brian]

Hey Tim, I was able to see "The Obama Deception" by Alex Jones and it deals with this very stuff. I don't know if you know who Alex Jones is (I didn't until yesterday) and I can't say I agree with everything he says however he has some interesting points and accusations that I think warrent a closer look.

Brian, I looked for an online video of "The Obama Deception" on his site but couldn't find one. Did you rent it from a video store or get access to it somehow else? A cursory glance at Jone's site looks to me like it's over the top, but that doesn't mean it's not worth giving a scrub. I think there is definitely a lot of hanky-panky going on at the top eschelons of power, but I usually don't come down on the side of the radical conspiracy theories. They mix a little bit of truth in with a lot of imagination. They thrive off of the power of suggestion rather than verifiable facts.

At any rate, I can understand your desire to distance yourself from it, but I still think that it's worth vetting. I'd like to watch the movie and see where it's coming from. Thanks for mentioning it.

Tim I can't reviel my sorces as to where, when , how, or even if I came to know this highly classified information...sorry .....


LOL Just Kidding
Its in 12 peices that someone upload here http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/19793/The_obama_deception_1of12/, they said it was released early and he got it from youtube. Thats only his word of course and I don't know if there are any copywrite violations or not so to the Mod's, feel free to remove the link if it's bad.Thanks

[rjjunior]

Obama Deception: Of what I watched, not bad...but I really hate when documentaries use speeches from the Alfred E. Smith Dinner (like Michael Moore in Fahr. 911) to incriminate. Those speeches are meant to be funny, self-deprecating, etc...