Rick Warren What??

[darylscook]

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280

Quite disappointing

Pastor Daryl

[dolfan]

Sooooo, he voted FOR Proposition 8 before voting against voting for it? Hm.

[RaceRunner]

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280

Quite disappointing

Pastor Daryl

Maybe Rick Warren now thinks that h.s. could be a genetic aberration.....or a temptation that people have no power over....or he doesn't want to be accused of speaking out against people who work with them....or...he enjoys Ray Boltz' music......or.....or......oh never mind.8):wink:

[MacUser]

http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=481280

Quite disappointing

Pastor Daryl

Wow. Indeed. Extremely disappointing.

[bibleguy]

Hmmm. It makes me wonder if there was some pre-inauguration, back room discussion. Everyone was praising Rick Warren for being a conservative Christian, and invoking the name of Jesus at the public prayer. Now this?

Did Obama and he have a little talk? Like, "Okay, I'm going to have you say the blessing at my inauguration, but (and that day may never come) I may call upon you for a favor. You might think about relaxing your position on a couple of issues. I think you know what I'm talking about. "

[free]

Very disappointing!

[Tim Elston]

Like I said a while back, within seventy years homosexual conduct will have gone the way of how divorce has gone in the evangelical church. That's my subjective prognostication, but we won't be around by then for me to say I told you so.

[JohnDB]

It does seem to come and go in waves...

Prayer of Jabez

Gold dust

"sow a special seed"

and now:
Purpose driven handbaskets.

I wonder what is going to come down the pike next.

[pastorables]

From another article regarding the subject:

Also worth noting from the Purpose Driven pastor's Larry King appearance: The White House (though not Obama himself) is in pretty regular touch with Warren, who thinks Obama's "doing as best he can" as president and lends his imprimatur to the president's Muslim outreach offensive in Turkey this week. "I think that's the exact right tone," Warren said. "There are 600,000 Buddhists in the world. There are 800,000 Hindus in the world. There are a billion Muslims in the world. There are 2.3 billion Christians in the world. You have to get along together. That's why I speak with Jewish groups. I speak to Muslim groups."

[pastorables]

Like I said a while back, within seventy years homosexual conduct will have gone the way of how divorce has gone in the evangelical church. That's my subjective prognostication, but we won't be around by then for me to say I told you so.

Tim,

If this happens, and I hope you're wrong, the remnant of God will be in caves drawing "the fish" again - unless the "catching away" has occurred by then... and that's likely.

pa

[bibleguy]

I am happy to hear [Rick Warren is going to pray at the inauguration]. Obama could have picked some firebrand like Jeremiah Wright, but, instead, chose a more moderate Evangelical like Warren, who will represent Christianity well.
Is this Obama's answer to the great Billy Graham?

The fact is, with this more "moderate" stance on homosexuality, I am afraid that he does represent Christianity well... at least the majority of those who call themselves Christians.

I was appalled to see the queer flag flying over a United Church of Christ in Massachusetts, and felt compelled to go and take it off and present it to the pastor along with a piece of my mind (a compulsion I resisted, mind you). The UCC prides itself on its openness to that lifestyle. If they're the "United Church OF CHRIST," which Christ do they mean?

But if Rick Warren is going to be the voice of modern Christianity in the White House, then he's doing a good job with this subject. In that way he IS kind of like today's answer to Billy Graham. IMHO, though, Bro. Graham was less the voice of Christianity, and more the representative of Christ to the presidents. BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!

[Dr. Ron]

I am disappointed in what I read here.....

I am going to the web site and see what the whole thing is about.....
This doesn't sound like him to me.....

He doesn't get involved in an "activist" way against any thing...but he doesn't support gay marriage , I can tell you that....

Hmmmmmm....

However, I don't think Tim is correct....if so, in seventy years I will be in heaven....so I guess it won't matter too much.....

[Brian]

California mega-church pastor and author of The Purpose Driven Life Rick Warren says he apologized to his homosexual friends for making comments in support of California's Proposition 8, and now claims he "never once even gave an endorsement" of the marriage amendment.

James 4:4 Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

So is Rick Warren saying that the homosexual practice is not of this world? Is homosexuallity a gift of the Spirit or byproduct thereof? I say no. But clearly Mr. Warren has indeed become a friend of the world.....unless of course I missed something in the "homosexual friends" statement?

God bless

[MacUser]

drawing "the fish" again

We have to make a new design! Suggestions?

[Pastorbps]

Tim is dead right. I would go further and say it will be much less than 70 years. I would guess 20-30. It will start with an acceptance under certain circumstances (Example - Those that are born that way as opposed to those who have chosen to live this way). The lines will then become blurred and no one will say anything to any homosexual who claims to be a Christian. Some will preach tolerance and will berate those who say it is wrong as judgmental. Others will talk about how we are cutting off a large, unreached group by teaching it is wrong. Others will claim those who oppose it are "legalists." Others will say "Fisherman don't catch fish already filleted and cleaned, just catch them and God will clean them."

In 20-30 years there probably won't be that many churches. After all, who says Christians have to go to church anyway?

America will go the way of Germany, France, Spain, and many Scandinavian countries. We will call ourselves a Christian nation but with only 2% of the population even attending church.

And yes the glass is half empty!