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[Brian]

Just like I said. You have a murderous ethic. You call for the extermination of Palestinian women and children in God's name as a final solution for the state of Israel, and rather than renounce it justify it with the biblical narrative. Bible or no Bible, God or not God, it is genocidal, murderous, and infanticidal. Pardon me if I am not moved by your righteous indignation at abortion.

Tim you are a smart enough guy, you know you can't dismiss the God equation if in fact God does exist! You said "God or no God", well if there is a God and if He HAS declared Himself as told in the scriptures then it would HAVE TO matter and would MATTER NOT how fair, right, or moral His actions were interpreted by you or anyone else. HE WOULD BE GOD and Creator, able to decide what when and how He carried out His plan for us, HIS CREATION! And you would fall right in line with EXACTLY what His word declared that some would fall into, in rebellion to His word because they thought they knew more than He! Your life (and mine) mimic what the scriptures have declared for thousands of years Tim!! You think your intellect has figured it all out? I sure haven't. Thats why I trust in a more perfect foundation than my own corruptable mind. Why can't you do that?

May the God of heaven open both our eyes Tim and make us able to follow His perfect way even if that way is in DIRECT conflict with what our human (fleshly) minds understand. Let me deny myself and follow HIM. Th flesh "wars against the spirit" Tim. How do you think that plays out? Its not only fighting against sinful behaviour, its fighting against the pride of the human mind that thinks it knows more than God because after all it just doesnt make any sence does it? Forgive us all Lord!!

[Tim Elston]

Tim, prove that my ethics are murderous. Do so or shut up!

You said this, Danny: "God's way always worked. KILL all your enemies Israel including women and children!!! When they fail to do that they have trouble. Extinguish the 'Palestinians' and there will be no talk or need of a Palestinian State."

That is a murderous ethic.

Tim, be fair and tell the rest of what he said.....

Gerald, what I described was God's way in the Old testament........

He said that just a few posts down in the thread that you linked to.

Brian, he was referencing the Old Testament narrative as justification for exterminating Palestinian women and children today. That's why he said, "Extinguish the 'Palestinians' and there will be no talk or need of a Palestinian state." His application of the OT narrative is quite currently intended in that statement. He refers to the Palestinians, whom he dehumanizes with the quotation marks, and he refers to the present debate about a Palestinian state. There is no question from his language that he calls for Israel to commit genocide as a present-day solution to the Palestinian problem. That's as fair as fair gets with the interpretation of that statement. If he doesn't still hold to it, he certainly has given no indication to that effect; in fact, quite the contrary.

[Brian]

Tim, prove that my ethics are murderous. Do so or shut up!

You said this, Danny: "God's way always worked. KILL all your enemies Israel including women and children!!! When they fail to do that they have trouble. Extinguish the 'Palestinians' and there will be no talk or need of a Palestinian State."

That is a murderous ethic.

Tim, be fair and tell the rest of what he said.....

Gerald, what I described was God's way in the Old testament........

He said that just a few posts down in the thread that you linked to.

Brian, he was referencing the Old Testament narrative as justification for exterminating Palestinian women and children today. That's why he said, "Extinguish the 'Palestinians' and there will no talk or need of a Palestinian state." His application of the OT narrative is quite currently intended in that statement. He refers to the Palestinians, whom he dehumanizes with the quotation marks, and he refers to the present debate about a Palestinian state. There is no question from his language that he calls for Israel to commit genocide as a present-day solution to the Palestinian problem. That's as fair as fair gets with the interpretation of that statement. If he doesn't still hold to it, he certainly has given no indication to that effect; in fact, quite the contrary.

Tim, my friend....seriously I am trying hard to be a friend. He was making the point of how to obtain peace when you have folks shooting rockets at you and killing your men women and children and dancing in the streets because of it! talk all you want about occupation....rubbish! that is NO REASON to blow yourself up and take anyone you can in the process. there is a misguided slant of what is actually happening here. if my neighbor was killing my family memembers at every opportunity they had I would try to stop them!! and if killing them was the way to do it.........God forgive me i would be a killer.

[Brian]

thats all I have for tonight my brain hurts!

[Full Quiver]

Tim can't be fair because that would disrupt his argument.