Question about Lee University

[pastorables]

I just find it amusing that my recent threads on Rod Parsley and Lee University became slightly hi-jacked...

So basically, the real problem is that you are a troublemaker!

You decide.

[Tim Elston]

How is it that my posts of late are turning into the "family feud"?

There can be neither a feud nor a reconciliation when one party is not allowed to talk to the other. The ball is not in my court.

[Pastor Gary]

How is it that my posts of late are turning into the "family feud"?

There can be neither a feud nor a reconciliation when one party is not allowed to talk to the other. The ball is not in my court.

Too funny.

[Tim Elston]

I heard it from you, not from him.

Oh, I'm sure you didn't.

Good, because you're right. I once told him that he didn't have any friends here, the way he was treated, and the only thing he had to say in response before changing the subject was that he and Gary are friends and would always be friends. I took it that a comment otherwise would not be welcome, and he was off to a subject that wasn't about badmouthing people. Phil freely ripped politicians, but in my presense he always declined to get into gossip about mutual acquaintances. When I would say something negative about someone, he consistently either changed the subject or said something forgiving or positive about the person, and his body language otherwise told me that he wasn't interested in saying bad things about people. That's my experience. Others who have a different experience with Phil may want to look at themselves as possibly part of the problem.

Pastorables, my guess is that Lee has a good online program. Best wishes on your educational dreams and endeavors.

[Tim Elston]

How is it that my posts of late are turning into the "family feud"?

There can be neither a feud nor a reconciliation when one party is not allowed to talk to the other. The ball is not in my court.

Too funny.

So I can talk to you now? I have your permission?

[ToJJB]

Lee has great programs if you are looking for an online degree in Bible.

IWU Online (Indiana Wesleyan University) has more online programs to offer too. IWU has online programs in Business, Nursing, Criminal Justice, Bible, General Studies, and Education.
http://www.indwes.edu/

[Pastor Gary]

How is it that my posts of late are turning into the "family feud"?

There can be neither a feud nor a reconciliation when one party is not allowed to talk to the other. The ball is not in my court.

Too funny.

So I can talk to you now? I have your permission?

It means if you are ready to apologize for character assassination and for calling me a liar, and can interact with me on an adult basis, even though you have personal animus toward me, we'll move on like men and put this behind us. If not, I am fine with you simply hating me -- take a number and get in line.

[Tim Elston]

It means if you are ready to apologize for character assassination and for calling me a liar, and can interact with me on an adult basis, even though you have personal animus toward me, we'll move on like men and put this behind us. If not, I am fine with you simply hating me -- take a number and get in line.

Well, with that reply, Gary, it's pretty certain that any attempt at reconciliation is futile. Whenever you're interested in reconciliation, let me know, because that's not it. I think that the only possible way for us to get past this is to arrange for someone to mediate between us, and the only person here that I trust for that is Kevin. I need to get past that armor of yours and somehow let you know in some way that is meaningful to you that, from my perspective, you have years of wrong to apologize to me for. I know that you recoil at even the suggestion, but, as I see it, that's part of the problem. If you are not in a place to be able to hear that, or if you are too psychologically burdened with other people to want even to deal with it, then I'm okay with that. And in that case, I think that we should continue not to talk to each other, because I am not even at a place where I can see that I have anything for which to apologize to you, but instead feel that you have a lot for which to apologize to me. My felt wounds from you run deep, and I don't trust you. You apparently feel the same toward me, and it's clear that we each think the other is to blame. Unless we're ready to start a hard process of reconciliation from absolute zero--unless both of us are ready for that--then I don't think we should even try. I am ready, but I don't think you are. Let me know when, if ever, you are. But, honestly, I don't want to burden you with it, so I'm okay with our current arrangement if that's what you need and prefer.

[Pastor Gary]

It means if you are ready to apologize for character assassination and for calling me a liar, and can interact with me on an adult basis, even though you have personal animus toward me, we'll move on like men and put this behind us. If not, I am fine with you simply hating me -- take a number and get in line.

Well, with that reply, Gary, it's pretty certain that any attempt at reconciliation is futile. Whenever you're interested in reconciliation, let me know, because that's not it. I think that the only possible way for us to get past this is to arrange for someone to mediate between us, and the only person here that I trust for that is Kevin. I need to get past that armor of yours and somehow let you know in some way that is meaningful to you that, from my perspective, you have years of wrong to apologize to me for. I know that you recoil at even the suggestion, but, as I see it, that's part of the problem. If you are not in a place to be able to hear that, or if you are too psychologically burdened with other people to want even to deal with it, then I'm okay with that. And in that case, I think that we should continue not to talk to each other, because I am not even at a place where I can see that I have anything for which to apologize to you, but instead feel that you have a lot for which to apologize to me. My felt wounds from you run deep, and I don't trust you. You apparently feel the same toward me, and it's clear that we each think the other is to blame. Unless we're ready to start a hard process of reconciliation from absolute zero--unless both of us are ready for that--then I don't think we should even try. I am ready, but I don't think you are. Let me know when, if ever, you are. But, honestly, I don't want to burden you with it, so I'm okay with our current arrangement if that's what you need and prefer.

More psychobabble tap-dancing. I asked in an earlier post for you to CITE THE WRONGS I have done to you... include any and all times I have assassinated your character or impugned your integrity as you have mine. You are a very clever and manipulative writer, able to twist the facts around to make it the other person's offense.

I am fine with you simply hating me -- take a number and get in line.

[Brian]

How is it that my posts of late are turning into the "family feud"?

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I just wanted to say I am sorry for my part in the hijacking. Seriously man I just get carried away sometimes and forget everything else thats going on around me. I seriously am clinically diagnosed Bipolar. no joke

[one love]

Reconciliation is NEVER to late period. PG I hate the idea you feel anyone hates you, I have been there as well.

Tim I appreciate your confidence and I would do anything to help this situation, for some reason , for which I cant explain I have a idea of what each of you are feeling. I really do, even without knowing all the details, maybe if everyone else got out of it, this could be different.
Souls are on the line folks, friends, loved ones all means should be tried.

I sure wish I could help but if he is banned that just bothers me for many reasons but this is your board and i respect that.


PG I am deeply sorry that you feel anyone HATES you, I pray that God can work things out and bring peace between you two, you never know what can come from it.

God bless you both and I love ya BOTH!