ark of the covenant news

[RamboPreacher]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/132067
that was yesterday, anyone hear of any news since?

[RamboPreacher]

update:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... eId=102274

i was kind of expecting something like this. oh well, was kinda looking forward to some scholarly discussions about an artifact like that.

it is unfortunate, becuase the "world" sees this move as typical for all of Christianity and their desire to "prove God", and then failing to come through.

[Susie Hamilton]

So was this for real? I would love to know, thanks.

[RamboPreacher]

So was this for real? I would love to know, thanks.

the Ethiopian church has been rumored to have id since at least teh 7th century. the first article says they were going to announce and reveal it. the next article essentially talks about it, but no revealing.

[JohnDB]

The lineage of the Ethiopian Jews has been known and acknowledged.

It has been suggested that this ark (one of many in Ethiopia) is actually the real thing.

It was Old when Jesus was born....now it is ancient. The rings that hold the poles won't any longer...from sheer age the rings have drooped and fallen. (gold will do that over the centuries)

This particular ark's existance has been known of...the problem is in proving that the original ark travelled there and was hidden away from the Babylonians or the Romans...I can't remember.

If they have found some kind of evidense...I would be interested in seeing it.

[beckrl]

I heard of this church,but don't think or didn't think they would ever reveal it. Many more proclaim the same.

Just to throw this in IF this were the art they would need it in the new temple right

[JohnDB]

OK...

Here is the thing...if this can be proven to be the legitimate ark...

Then we have a problem.

There are those in Israel who would flip out and demand that the Temple Mount be reclaimed from the Palestinians and the Temple rebuilt immediately.

They have been breeding red bovines...and have successfully created a line of them that do not have the yellow blemish.

The only thing that keeps them from reclaiming the Temple mount is politics...world politics.

You are talking about an all out war with the moslems if they do this.

That means shipping oil is going to be interrupted...and that is revenue for many governments of moslem countries.

It is going to be stalled for a very long time...untill the evidense is overwhelming that this is the ark...until that time everything will simply be a publicity stunt.

[beckrl]

I'll also throw this in...

If the jewish nation find out that the temple is to be to the left of the dome of the rock, and then are given the decree to rebuild at a time of peace. Because each ( Jews, moslems and christains)would have thier piece of mount Moriah.

[RamboPreacher]

to the left?

[beckrl]

to the left?

Yeah, You haven't heard ?

Well that's what I think I read some where. I know that some say it's to the south of the dome. I'm not sure that would equal to the left
The story is that someone founded a stone that dates back to the temple or is the temple foundation. I'm not sure were I read or heard that.

I think this is one site I read.
http://www.templemount.org/theories.html

[RamboPreacher]

from various perspectives "to the left" could be anywhere on the temple mount (which I am not necessarily convinced is the exact, correct location, I lean towards a more Southerly location)

[JohnDB]

I misspoke when I said earlier that the lineage of the Ethiopian Jews has been acknowledged...

Their existance has been acknowledged but their lineage is what is the problem...as is with most Jews. (They have no idea as to who is from which tribe)

Their is no control group for DNA testing either so truly knowing who is from the tribe of Levi is also going to be impossible as well. They may believe themselves to be from that tribe...but that is just rumor and speculation...there are no records. They were destroyed long long ago.

Since the ARK must be carried on the backs of Levites...Then there was that thing about all of the high priests dieing from entering the Holy of Holies every year during the Hasmonean period. (a rope tied to their ankles became customary during that period when they entered the Holy of Holies)

The thing might just be...revered. Kinda like voodoo. Belief is sometimes enough to do all sorts of things.

The Ark may not have been made by God...but it was his throne. So that means that the thing is Holy because it came into the presence of God...much like Archeologists are looking for a rock that Jesus cut personally in Sapphoris...because it also would be holy.
As well as the Holy Grail (cup)

And Moses' bones.

The Ark of Noah was destroyed a long time ago. If you believe the Greek copy of Josephus (considered to be less reliable due to additions) that ark was used as a tourist trap and cut into amulets to ward off evil spirits a long time ago. (I happen to think that this is a somewhat accurate oral tradition)

[beckrl]

from various perspectives "to the left" could be anywhere on the temple mount (which I am not necessarily convinced is the exact, correct location, I lean towards a more Southerly location)

As I reread the site that I posted it too lean toward the Southern location.
Which by the way is that left, right or neither? I truely don't recall where I heard or read "to the left" it may even being on some tv show.

That said, RP I will lean to the same since you have been there and I have not

[dolfan]

Zola Levitt, before he died, wrote that he thinks the Ark is under the Temple Mount. He doubts it could've been taken to Ethiopia because of organized marauders, thieves, etc., and that it would've been very difficult to take it that far for that long securely. And, this from a dispensationalist's dispensationalist.