sermon confirmation

[Mike Vande]

A former pastor of mine used to to talk about the "message of the hour", by which he meant a particular topic or doctrinal approach that was being preached in a number of pulpits at the same time with any deliberate human coordination. He said it could mean that God was saying the same thing to a lot of people. he also said it could mean that a lot of people were reading the same books, watching the same TV shows, and listening to the same radio programs.

When that sort of thing has happend to me, I have generally kept an eye/ear out for more coincidences of the same sort, and prayed to know what they meant and if they were actually delivering a scriptural message or not. Frankly, that sort of thing could just as readily mean the message was in error as correct.

[Gerald Creasy]

You are always saying that the truth must stand in the scriptures..Well so be it......Let the scriptures be yours and my judge....

Their is a double standard that I have seen for some time. When some one challenges you...they are seen as judgemental, not understanding, and in some cases just being mean to you, they don't understand you...you have been through so much. But when you spew your anger, your accusations, name calling, and judgemental attitude.. Well that just Gerald being Gerald, besides he spices up the board and brings more traffic. Sad that such a great talen that you have has come to no more than spicing up a board.

We shall have real progress when you apply your own resoning to the Demonic teachings of Kenneth Copeland.

It is sadly hystreical that you run to scripture to keep a stiff challenge in line but you follow a man who craps on God.

[Gerald Creasy]

A former pastor of mine used to to talk about the "message of the hour", by which he meant a particular topic or doctrinal approach that was being preached in a number of pulpits at the same time with any deliberate human coordination. He said it could mean that God was saying the same thing to a lot of people. he also said it could mean that a lot of people were reading the same books, watching the same TV shows, and listening to the same radio programs.

When that sort of thing has happend to me, I have generally kept an eye/ear out for more coincidences of the same sort, and prayed to know what they meant and if they were actually delivering a scriptural message or not. Frankly, that sort of thing could just as readily mean the message was in error as correct.

Very Good.

Have you ever listened to anyone where you knew they had listened to what you had listened to?

This happened to me just one Bible Study ago.

[paul]

You are always saying that the truth must stand in the scriptures..Well so be it......Let the scriptures be yours and my judge....

Their is a double standard that I have seen for some time. When some one challenges you...they are seen as judgemental, not understanding, and in some cases just being mean to you, they don't understand you...you have been through so much. But when you spew your anger, your accusations, name calling, and judgemental attitude.. Well that just Gerald being Gerald, besides he spices up the board and brings more traffic. Sad that such a great talen that you have has come to no more than spicing up a board.

We shall have real progress when you apply your own resoning to the Demonic teachings of Kenneth Copeland.

It is sadly hystreical that you run to scripture to keep a stiff challenge in line but you follow a man who craps on God, and wipes his hind end with the cloak of Christ.

The word will be our judge Gerald both yours and mine. I stand confident, I hope you do also. I just see so much of your talent and knowledge wasted....but again that is just my oponion. As my favorite Bill Oriely would say ....I'll give you the final word.

[pastorables]

The best thing is don't preach anything that you are not first sure of. That's safe ground!

It was a nice confirmation to an already confident direction

It might do you good to read a post slowly. I purposely worded it the way I did due to my suspicion that someone would have some derogatory opinion.

Thank you to dolfan and those who really do love me, in spite of my strong pentecostal beliefs. There is nothing bapticostal in these bones.

Blessings,
pa

[MacUser]

Have you prayed for him?

Well talking logic and reason to a man who believes in Demonic cats and the scriptural equivalence of a "multitude of councelors" hasn't worked so It looks like I'm gonna have to.

Gerald,
Quickly (and it's late - so I'm tired).. I served on the Pastoral Committee / Pastor Booster when Pastor Ables was interviewed and approved. My wife held the office of expense clerk for over 10+ years and while PA served with us. Not everyone could see what we seen behind the scenes from each Pastor that visited. Pastorables walked privately and publicly the highest level of integrity seen to date... down to the most simple of matters that most would over look. You would be blessed to have him.

I was also blessed to hear his Grandmother graciously come and speak for us and share her incredible energy, testimony and share the word. She touched my family and formed a relationship with my own Godly Grandmother till her death. These are incredible women that I would trust to pray for me and my family any day.

I've also witnessed and was part of several incredible experiences that surrounded and connected with Pastorables. Things that took years to come true.. but did. I witnessed it after he was gone.

So I'm asking you not get parsed on single issues and hung up on your buzz words and beat/ fit people into boxes that you might not fully know about.

He and his wife are incredible ministers that you would be blessed to sit under or get to know. Trust me.

[Gerald Creasy]

Gerald,
Quickly (and it's late - so I'm tired).. I served on the Pastoral Committee / Pastor Booster when Pastor Ables was interviewed and approved. My wife held the office of expense clerk for over 10+ years and while PA served with us. Not everyone could see what we seen behind the scenes from each Pastor that visited. Pastorables walked privately and publicly the highest level of integrity seen to date... down to the most simple of matters that most would over look. You would be blessed to have him.

I was also blessed to hear his Grandmother graciously come and speak for us and share her incredible energy, testimony and share the word. She touched my family and formed a relationship with my own Godly Grandmother till her death. These are incredible women that I would trust to pray for me and my family any day.

I've also witnessed and was part of several incredible experiences that surrounded and connected with Pastorables. Things that took years to come true.. but did. I witnessed it after he was gone.

So I'm asking you not get parsed on single issues and hung up on your buzz words and beat/ fit people into boxes that you might not fully know about.

He and his wife are incredible ministers that you would be blessed to sit under or get to know. Trust me.

Then imagine how much better he shall be when he develops a strong integrity for scripture.

[Full Quiver]

Allow me to clarify my position. I have no personal quarrels with pastor Ables. I do find some of the things he posts to be interesting and easy to critique. He just makes it easy for me lately. Nothing personal PA!

[justsam]

Mat 7:3-5 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? (4) Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? (5) Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

[Full Quiver]

Context Sam.... as a pastor/former pastor whatever surely you have preached against sin, I'd hope, if so then the sinners among the congregation could have used this verse against you