Beach Day at Church

EagerBeaver · Postby **EagerBeaver** » August 22nd, 2009, 7:41 am

At my church's campout today, they plan on swimming in Yale Lake here near Mt. St. Helens. The lake is huge but they want the group to stay together so you know what that means...

MIXED GENDER SWIMMING! Oh the horror :roll:

TW · Postby TW » August 22nd, 2009, 8:22 am

There are a number of people throwing out the 1 Timothy scripture as "proof" of what is modest (in Biblical terms). So let's take alook at this scripture and see what Paul was really saying.

1 Timothy 2:9 (King James Version)

9In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

1 Timothy 2:9 (NIV)

9 I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or expensive clothes,

1 Timothy 2:9 (NLT)

And I want women to be modest in their appearance. They should wear decent and appropriate clothing, not draw attention to themselves by the way they fix their hair or by wearing gold or pearls or expensive clothes.

This verse has nothing to say about how much skin should be showing. Rather, Paul is stating that is inappropriate for a woman to draw attention to herself by "over dressing," flaunting her wealth by wearing expensive clothes, expensive jewelry, and coiffed hair. This was the problem that Paul faced. He goes on to say, in so many words, that a woman who claims to be a Christian should be known by the life she leads and her good works. To arrive at any other understanding of the scripture is to add to it, and is incorrect and a false teaching.

TW

Here is a literal translation & transliteration:

[quote]1 Tima Theaus 2:9 (the Aramaic New Covenant)

Thus also women in manner of modest clothing with modesty and sobrity being their adornment - not in braiding gold or pearls or with beautiful garments[quote]

free · Postby **free** » August 22nd, 2009, 10:28 am

After viewing the picture more closely it appears that all of the women have short hair...I say stone them all!!

oletimer · Postby **oletimer** » August 22nd, 2009, 4:05 pm

free Posted:

After viewing the picture more closely it appears that all of the women have short hair...I say stone them all!!

I was perfect happy with just teaching them better :wink:

pastorables · Postby **pastorables** » August 22nd, 2009, 7:56 pm

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macgulley · Postby **macgulley** » August 22nd, 2009, 8:56 pm

Speaking of what Paul said, how about this one :lol:

1 Peter 3:3 (King James Version)

3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

TW · Postby TW » August 23rd, 2009, 2:26 am

macgulley wrote:Speaking of what Paul said, how about this one
1 Peter 3:3 (King James Version)

3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;

And herein lies the problem of pulling one verse out of context. If you take this verse literally, as a stand alone verse, it would seem that Peter is advocating nudism (at least for the women). :oops:

When in fact Peter was talking about avoiding any vain display that would draw attention by going outside the social and cultural norms.

TW

rough_rider · Postby **rough_rider** » August 23rd, 2009, 12:03 pm

I have a question for those who may not approve of this baptizing.
Would you have turned away the girl in the 2pc and not of baptized her?

This was the first time I saw the pic and I did think she was a bit underdressed for a baptizing, but not for a day at the beach :wink:

. Most new christians do things like that, I would be happy that she felt the need to be baptized and would have saved the teaching on modesty for another day.

ImaPK · Postby **ImaPK** » August 23rd, 2009, 12:55 pm

I SEE 4 OF THE ADULT MEN WEARING SHORTS!!!IMMODESTY ALERT!!!! TURN EM OUT OF THE CHURCH!!! THEY ARE DOOMED!!!! :shock:

RamboPreacher · Postby **RamboPreacher** » August 23rd, 2009, 3:29 pm

ImaPK wrote::shock: I SEE 4 OF THE ADULT MEN WEARING SHORTS!!!IMMODESTY ALERT!!!! TURN EM OUT OF THE CHURCH!!! THEY ARE DOOMED!!!!

hay - I wore shorts to church yesterday. the place didn't catch fire or anything. am I going to go to ach ee double toothpicks now?

Russell Roberts · Postby **Russell Roberts** » August 23rd, 2009, 3:36 pm

Rambo, your profile pic went from your basic training picture to a person hugging a palm tree?

RamboPreacher · Postby **RamboPreacher** » August 23rd, 2009, 11:45 pm

Russell Roberts wrote:Rambo, your profile pic went from your basic training picture to a person hugging a palm tree?

it's an internet thing. a joke. it's a "facepalm".

macgulley · Postby **macgulley** » August 24th, 2009, 3:48 am

oletimer wrote:
free Posted:

After viewing the picture more closely it appears that all of the women have short hair...I say stone them all!!

I was perfect happy with just teaching them better

You want to teach them better than to cut their hair? :?:

Jude 2