Lust

[dolfan]

i have two daughters. 8 and 6. if they dress with a low neckline and short skirts when they get older i will question there relationship with God. and before they get out of our house they will not dress like that. if they try they will get their butts beat. this world needs common sense. if a half dressed women is standing in front of a man the man has to be in a defensive mode. we need to all grow up and get past this need to push the envelope. Go to the beach and try to pick out the women that are Christian and those that are not. i bet you cant most of the time. Lust is completly sexual all of the time for men. and if women did not want men to lust after them they would not dress with everything hanging out. Men are attracted to site and touch. proven for years. one new idea will not change that. sorry tw but this idea is insane.

I have one daughter, 5. If she dresses suggestively when she gets older, I will question the example of my wife and me. I hope I never have to question her relationship with God; I think it should be abundantly clear and that we should have the discernment and good sense to know it, esp. since we're her parents.

If a fully-dressed woman stands near a man, he better be in defense mode. Sometimes seduction is dressed in a potato sack. Always play solid defense. Pushing envelopes on how much of ourselves to expose is, indeed, immature. There's nothing to be gained by showing more, nothing to lose by showing less; nothing to be gained by measuring one another's necklines and hemlines. You can't pick out Christian women from their attire; I know two women who I can think of by name right now who dress in long skirts and long hair and no make-up, and who read the bible all the time, go to church, etc., but who live like dogs half the time. You can't judge who is a Christian at the beach by the swimsuit; you probably can get a pretty good idea by how they're acting (are they all over some guy? are they drunk?); I don't know what good that exercise will do for you, though. Besides that, how are you going to prove that you're right or wrong? Gal-on-the-beach interviews? Good luck with that. Call me, and I'll recommend a bail bondsman.

Now, here's a point of agreement: if women don't want men paying attention, they won't dress with their stuff hanging out. This is going to make someone angry, probably, but I tend to agree with this idea. We highlight our appearances, and what we like about them. Men wear suits and neatly groomed haircuts to work to please their colleagues, clients and customers. Women do so, too. Men act with cool aloofness and loose talk and braggadoccio to women to get their attention; women show off their bodies to get the attention of men. I think its largely biological. But, so are many things we keep in check because not to do so is really not like the character of Jesus. What some women will wear into a courtroom or on the job amazes me at times. They do it expressly to communicate a message to a man or men, an aura of availability, a suggestion of something to be had in exchange for something else, the provision of an object of fantasy in exchange for favorable treatment of some kind. It is unspoken, but very real. So, yes, I do find this to be true.

[dawgs10]

i have two daughters. 8 and 6. if they dress with a low neckline and short skirts when they get older i will question there relationship with God. and before they get out of our house they will not dress like that. if they try they will get their butts beat. this world needs common sense. if a half dressed women is standing in front of a man the man has to be in a defensive mode. we need to all grow up and get past this need to push the envelope. Go to the beach and try to pick out the women that are Christian and those that are not. i bet you cant most of the time. Lust is completly sexual all of the time for men. and if women did not want men to lust after them they would not dress with everything hanging out. Men are attracted to site and touch. proven for years. one new idea will not change that. sorry tw but this idea is insane.

I have one daughter, 5. If she dresses suggestively when she gets older, I will question the example of my wife and me. I hope I never have to question her relationship with God; I think it should be abundantly clear and that we should have the discernment and good sense to know it, esp. since we're her parents.

If a fully-dressed woman stands near a man, he better be in defense mode. Sometimes seduction is dressed in a potato sack. Always play solid defense. Pushing envelopes on how much of ourselves to expose is, indeed, immature. There's nothing to be gained by showing more, nothing to lose by showing less; nothing to be gained by measuring one another's necklines and hemlines. You can't pick out Christian women from their attire; I know two women who I can think of by name right now who dress in long skirts and long hair and no make-up, and who read the bible all the time, go to church, etc., but who live like dogs half the time. You can't judge who is a Christian at the beach by the swimsuit; you probably can get a pretty good idea by how they're acting (are they all over some guy? are they drunk?); I don't know what good that exercise will do for you, though. Besides that, how are you going to prove that you're right or wrong? Gal-on-the-beach interviews? Good luck with that. Call me, and I'll recommend a bail bondsman.

Now, here's a point of agreement: if women don't want men paying attention, they won't dress with their stuff hanging out. This is going to make someone angry, probably, but I tend to agree with this idea. We highlight our appearances, and what we like about them. Men wear suits and neatly groomed haircuts to work to please their colleagues, clients and customers. Women do so, too. Men act with cool aloofness and loose talk and braggadoccio to women to get their attention; women show off their bodies to get the attention of men. I think its largely biological. But, so are many things we keep in check because not to do so is really not like the character of Jesus. What some women will wear into a courtroom or on the job amazes me at times. They do it expressly to communicate a message to a man or men, an aura of availability, a suggestion of something to be had in exchange for something else, the provision of an object of fantasy in exchange for favorable treatment of some kind. It is unspoken, but very real. So, yes, I do find this to be true.

knowing what kind of example my wife sets for my children i can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that if my girls get older and dress like women that are up to something i would only question my girls personal relationship with God. other than that i agree completely with your post. you worded it better than i did. the statement about knowing the difference on a beach i am sorry but being in the world and not of it still applies in panama city.