Drug agents shoot GA pastor
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Drug agents shoot GA pastor
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I am generally a big supporter of law enforcement, and give the police the benefit of the doubt, but -- seriously -- this is messed up.
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
Very sad but other reports have more details such as:
"Bankhead said agents approached Ayers for questioning but the pastor tried to avoid them, putting his car in reverse before he struck one of the agents."
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20696049/detail.html
"Bankhead said agents approached Ayers for questioning but the pastor tried to avoid them, putting his car in reverse before he struck one of the agents."
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20696049/detail.html
"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." Anonymous
"Arguing with some people is like wrestling with a pig, at the end you are both filthy and exhausted –and you get the distinct feeling that the pig enjoyed the experience."
"Arguing with some people is like wrestling with a pig, at the end you are both filthy and exhausted –and you get the distinct feeling that the pig enjoyed the experience."
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macgulley wrote:Very sad but other reports have more details such as:
"Bankhead said agents approached Ayers for questioning but the pastor tried to avoid them, putting his car in reverse before he struck one of the agents."
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20696049/detail.html
Yeah -- if three people, not in uniforms, jumped from a black SUV waving weapons and yelling at me when I had done nothing wrong, I'd REALLY try to avoid them, and might have run them over.
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
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Are you sure you would react differently Mac if when getting in your car after stopping at the ATM three guys pulled up beside you in a black Escalade and jumped out yelling and pointing guns at you? If this is their SOP for picking someone up for questioning then their SOP is in serious need of review.
For the truth that lies at the heart of theology is not something there to be discovered, but something, or rather someone, to whom we must surrender. The mystery of faith is not ultimately something that invites our questioning, but something that questions us.
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forestwalker wrote:Are you sure you would react differently Mac if when getting in your car after stopping at the ATM three guys pulled up beside you in a black Escalade and jumped out yelling and pointing guns at you? If this is their SOP for picking someone up for questioning then their SOP is in serious need of review.
Actually, a gun battle would have ensued if I didn't know they were cops and I suspect there would be several funerals, not just one.
However, the original post seemed to say that out of the blue some guys jumped out of an Escalade and started shooting. My post was simply to point out that the original post didn't carry the whole story, i.e. that a known drug dealer had just gotten out of the car and that the pastor had hit one of the officers with his vehicle.
Here's another snippet from CNN:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/09/04/geo ... index.htmlThe officers saw the woman in a car with Ayers and saw what they believed was a drug transaction, Bankhead said. They followed the car as Ayers dropped the woman off at a gas station.
The undercover officers wanted to question Ayers about what they had just seen, he said. "They approached the vehicle. They were in plain clothes. They identified themselves as police officers, which civilian witnesses say happened. They also had badges around their necks."
Ayers put the car in reverse and backed up, striking an officer, Bankhead said.
"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." Anonymous
"Arguing with some people is like wrestling with a pig, at the end you are both filthy and exhausted –and you get the distinct feeling that the pig enjoyed the experience."
"Arguing with some people is like wrestling with a pig, at the end you are both filthy and exhausted –and you get the distinct feeling that the pig enjoyed the experience."
Whatever the circumstances, this is certainly a tragedy and my prayers go out to all involved.
"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still." Anonymous
"Arguing with some people is like wrestling with a pig, at the end you are both filthy and exhausted –and you get the distinct feeling that the pig enjoyed the experience."
"Arguing with some people is like wrestling with a pig, at the end you are both filthy and exhausted –and you get the distinct feeling that the pig enjoyed the experience."
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macgulley wrote: from CNN:The officers saw the woman in a car with Ayers and saw what they believed was a drug transaction, Bankhead said. They followed the car as Ayers dropped the woman off at a gas station.
The undercover officers wanted to question Ayers about what they had just seen, he said. "They approached the vehicle. They were in plain clothes. They identified themselves as police officers, which civilian witnesses say happened. They also had badges around their necks."
I have given rides to ex-cons, crack users, and various unsavory characters and probably more than a few with warrants. Kind of scary.
"God is excited to show you mercy. He rises to give you His compassion." (Isaiah 30:18)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
"For surely, O LORD, you bless the righteous; you surround them with your favor as with a shield." (Psalm 5:12)
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Pastor Gary wrote:macgulley wrote: from CNN:The officers saw the woman in a car with Ayers and saw what they believed was a drug transaction, Bankhead said. They followed the car as Ayers dropped the woman off at a gas station.
The undercover officers wanted to question Ayers about what they had just seen, he said. "They approached the vehicle. They were in plain clothes. They identified themselves as police officers, which civilian witnesses say happened. They also had badges around their necks."
I have given rides to ex-cons, crack users, and various unsavory characters and probably more than a few with warrants. Kind of scary.
good for you for showing love to those that desperately need it. Just thought I would add that.
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