Trouble in the NABORhood

[Mike Vande]

I weep for them and their whole denomination.

[Full Quiver]

Correction: Juan does not produce the videos.

TC, she is preching in some of the videos. At least once you can see Nabors looking at her and you can all but read his mind. Say whatever you want, believe what you want, I don't care either way. I'm just saying.

[TC]

either way its another split in the TRUE, FOR SURE CHURCH i have always said that it is a spirit from satan that causes churchs to split and start up your own. they carry that spirit with them when they go and it just keeps on spliting.

I don't know about all the church splitting, but I know that just about every Church started after someone was not happy with things where they were, be it spiritual or personal reasons and left to go on their own. I am praying for all Christians to be Christ Like and not worry about labels.

[TC]

Correction: Juan does not produce the videos.

TC, she is preching in some of the videos. At least once you can see Nabors looking at her and you can all but read his mind. Say whatever you want, believe what you want, I don't care either way. I'm just saying.

Ok Full Quiver from you are saying I am taking it you went and found out that it was not while he was being placed in the position of GO. So I am taking it that you when back and saw the video of her preaching and there has to be a place you can see him looking at her and "you could all but read his mind"

Please send me a link to the video and the exact point or points in the video where you can "all but read his mind" It appears you do care either way because according to YOU that is what you saw. Please back this up with the link and time I would love to look it up If you don't want to post here send me a message.

[dbserv]

Here's a link to over 100 videos that Bro. JB has posted on You Tube.


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AriseShineTV#g/u



I don't know if he "produced" them all, or not.

But, he did post them on his You Tube acct. - Arise Shine TV



So, I think that means he takes credit for them.

[dbserv]

Some of the videos were uploaded very recently even though they took place several years ago.

It appears to be an attempt to prop up support for N to remain as GO in spite of whatever is happening.

[CantBCoy]

Who could sit through enough of those videos to find something like that?

[TC]

Who could sit through enough of those videos to find something like that?

I totally agree, that is why I am asking for them to tell us the video and about the time in the video when the "lust" was supposed to have taken place....

on a side note...

I better be careful, since I am a man and I have listened to women ministers intently, and are very interested in what they are saying... I might be accused of Lusting after them

[carant894]

TC-

You have referenced a few times, about defending this man that you do not know. But, you are not only casually defending him. You are putting an awful lot of energy in this. Why so touchy?? I do not understand.
I continued to be amused by your passionate defense of this man.

I will not discuss any further about the allegations. But, I will say that I know Nabors. And, completely apart from these allegations he is the most vile, ruthless, and destructive human being that I have ever met in my life. This is not gossip, this is a FACT of my own personal experience with this man. I would not defend him for anything in the world. But, if you want to do so, go right ahead.

[TC]

TC-

You have referenced a few times, about defending this man that you do not know. But, you are not only casually defending him. You are putting an awful lot of energy in this. Why so touchy?? I do not understand.
I continued to be amused by your passionate defense of this man.

I will not discuss any further about the allegations. But, I will say that I know Nabors. And, completely apart from these allegations he is the most vile, ruthless, and destructive human being that I have ever met in my life. This is not gossip, this is a FACT of my own personal experience with this man. I would not defend him for anything in the world. But, if you want to do so, go right ahead.

First I am putting effort into defending a man I don't know because I expect people in the world to judge others but not Christians. I think Christians judging others is why many don't want anything to do with Christ. What kind of examples are we? I have been judged for things I did not do and I have judged others, and I see what it can do to EVERYONE concerned.

Your statements and your willingness to make a hit and run statement without being willing to back it up with facts on your part says alot about you. It also says alot that from the start you appeared to take glee in this situation, you throw out "alleged" but your comments have shown you have had an axe to grind from the start, and the "alleged" is just to cover your butt since you have no first hand knowledge.

If this man is what you say he is, and you have seen it first hand then what does the Bible say you should do? I am not sure but I don't think it is to go on an internet forum and trash him on something you don't have any proof on. Maybe you need to go to him and tell him your feeling. These feeling can not be good for your heart.

I don't know you but I would not like to see such comments about you, and if this man were doing this same thing to you I hope that I would do the same for you.

[carant894]

TC-

You have referenced a few times, about defending this man that you do not know. But, you are not only casually defending him. You are putting an awful lot of energy in this. Why so touchy?? I do not understand.
I continued to be amused by your passionate defense of this man.

I will not discuss any further about the allegations. But, I will say that I know Nabors. And, completely apart from these allegations he is the most vile, ruthless, and destructive human being that I have ever met in my life. This is not gossip, this is a FACT of my own personal experience with this man. I would not defend him for anything in the world. But, if you want to do so, go right ahead.

First I am putting effort into defending a man I don't know because I expect people in the world to judge others but not Christians. I think Christians judging others is why many don't want anything to do with Christ. What kind of examples are we? I have been judged for things I did not do and I have judged others, and I see what it can do to EVERYONE concerned.

Your statements and your willingness to make a hit and run statement without being willing to back it up with facts on your part says alot about you. It also says alot that from the start you appeared to take glee in this situation, you throw out "alleged" but your comments have shown you have had an axe to grind from the start, and the "alleged" is just to cover your butt since you have no first hand knowledge.

If this man is what you say he is, and you have seen it first hand then what does the Bible say you should do? I am not sure but I don't think it is to go on an internet forum and trash him on something you don't have any proof on. Maybe you need to go to him and tell him your feeling. These feeling can not be good for your heart.

I don't know you but I would not like to see such comments about you, and if this man were doing this same thing to you I hope that I would do the same for you.

TC- You keep reminding us that we are not the judge. But who are you??? You are certianly taking a judgemental approach towards me & Full Quiver. You continue to make statements insinuating that I am not a Christian. So, we are to be Christ-like, but you get a free pass????

I have apologized for my previous posts, I have asked for forgiveness. However, you choose to continue bringing it up, is that Christ-like??

You are such a hypocrite!!!!!!!

You judge us and criticize every comment and dissect every word and then sit there on your thrown and call us judgemental.

[TC]

TC- You keep reminding us that we are not the judge. But who are you??? You are certianly taking a judgemental approach towards me & Full Quiver. You continue to make statements insinuating that I am not a Christian. So, we are to be Christ-like, but you get a free pass????

I have apologized for my previous posts, I have asked for forgiveness. However, you choose to continue bringing it up, is that Christ-like??

You are such a hypocrite!!!!!!!

You judge us and criticize every comment and dissect every word and then sit there on your thrown and call us judgemental.

I think you might need to re-read what I wrote, never once have I said you were not a Christian, Yes we all are to be Christ like, and that is wht I am trying to do, show you by your own comments that you are judging someone. I have said over and over that i have made mistakes and I hope to never do that again, but if I do I would hope that I would go to that person and clear the air not continue to spread gossip on the interned.

So you have apologized, but yet you still come back and make comments about his guilt. I am not the one that keeps bringing it up. My comments have remained the same during this whole conversation.

I am sorry if you feel that I take what you say as your word, that it is being judgemental. If you are sorry for what you wrote then do not repeat the same type of things after you say you are sorry.

I never once said you were not a Christian, that is between you and God. But I will say it is not Christ Like to repeat gossip on an internet forum. Unless you have first hand knowledge it is just that gossip

[carant894]

So you have apologized, but yet you still come back and make comments about his guilt.

Simply a lie. I most certainly have not. Read my posts since the apology. I have not spoken about the accusations and his guilt or innocence.

[TC]

So you have apologized, but yet you still come back and make comments about his guilt.

Simply a lie. I most certainly have not. Read my posts since the apology. I have not spoken about the accusations and his guilt or innocence.

Well actually you made several little apology statements and I am not sure exactly which statement is the apology you are speaking of so I very well could be wrong and could be confusing your statements with full Q, it could very well be a mistake on my part and for that I am sorry. It was not my intent to do as what you say I did, Lie.

on that note would it be right for me to call you a liar because I never said you wee not a Christian, I said some behavior is/was not Christ like. I totally believe that no one is perfect, and I am at the very top of that list. We all do things that are not Christ like yet that does not mean we are not Christians, it just means that we are working towards that goal.

What gets me is we know adultery is a sin and murder is a sin yet we are ok when it comes to a little Church house gossip.

[free]

Has this branch of the CoG shut down their web site or changed the address? Can't seem to find it anywhere.