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Postby dbserv » November 16th, 2009, 6:50 pm

Apparently that is their old site. Here is the new one.

http://tcogonline.org/


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Postby TC » November 16th, 2009, 7:02 pm

carant894 wrote:TC- :roll: ](*,)


Free- Here it is... http://thechurchofgodtn.wordpress.com/


YEP that is me... refusing to listen to Christians Gossip

I find it is so interesting that people have sent me "ammunition"

I have almost everything... but I did like what this one had to say.

"’My name is Gossip. I have no respect for justice. I maim without killing. I break hearts and ruin lives. I am cunning and malicious and gather strength with age. The more I am quoted the more I am believed. My victims are helpless. They cannot protect themselves against me because I have no name or face. To track me down is impossible. The harder I try, the more elusive I become. I am nobody’s friend. Once I tarnish a reputation, it is never the same. I topple governments and wreck marriages. I ruin careers and cause sleepless nights, heartaches and indigestion. I make innocent people cry in their pillows. Even my name hisses. I am called Gossip. I make headlines and headaches.’ Anonymous
Before you repeat a story, ask yourself: Is it harmless? Is it necessary? If it isn’t, don’t repeat it."

http://factoidz.com/what-does-the-bible-teach-us-about-gossip/

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Postby carant894 » November 17th, 2009, 1:56 am

TC wrote:
carant894 wrote:TC- :roll: ](*,)


Free- Here it is... http://thechurchofgodtn.wordpress.com/


YEP that is me... refusing to listen to Christians Gossip

I find it is so interesting that people have sent me "ammunition"

I have almost everything... but I did like what this one had to say.

"’My name is Gossip. I have no respect for justice. I maim without killing. I break hearts and ruin lives. I am cunning and malicious and gather strength with age. The more I am quoted the more I am believed. My victims are helpless. They cannot protect themselves against me because I have no name or face. To track me down is impossible. The harder I try, the more elusive I become. I am nobody’s friend. Once I tarnish a reputation, it is never the same. I topple governments and wreck marriages. I ruin careers and cause sleepless nights, heartaches and indigestion. I make innocent people cry in their pillows. Even my name hisses. I am called Gossip. I make headlines and headaches.’ Anonymous
Before you repeat a story, ask yourself: Is it harmless? Is it necessary? If it isn’t, don’t repeat it."

http://factoidz.com/what-does-the-bible-teach-us-about-gossip/



Frankly.... You are not "refusing to listen". If you feel that gossip is what is happening here, why do you keep clicking on the link that brings you to this thread. You are taking it as a personal mission to correct every wrong that is happening here. And, that is fine. But, don't make a holier than thou statement about "refusing to listen". It is simply hypocritical.

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Postby Full Quiver » November 17th, 2009, 3:04 am

TC- You keep reminding us that we are not the judge. But who are you??? You are certianly taking a judgemental approach towards me & Full Quiver. You continue to make statements insinuating that I am not a Christian. So, we are to be Christ-like, but you get a free pass????



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Exactly!

What most cannot see because of their self righteousness is that in order to say someone is judging then they must first judge that person otherwise they couldn't come to such an opinion.


TC, had you spent half the time looking through the videos that you have spent defending Nabors then you would have seen the instance yet I am sure you would disagree.
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Postby TC » November 17th, 2009, 6:33 am

carant894 wrote:

Frankly.... You are not "refusing to listen". If you feel that gossip is what is happening here, why do you keep clicking on the link that brings you to this thread. You are taking it as a personal mission to correct every wrong that is happening here. And, that is fine. But, don't make a holier than thou statement about "refusing to listen". It is simply hypocritical.


It is not a holier than thou... it is me calling gossip... what it is GOSSIP. And giving you two the chance to redeem yourself. But it also appears to me that you would rather call me hypocritical and defend your spreading of gossip than realizing that what you are doing it not becoming for a Christian

it is truly sad that some Christians would take such Joy in the gossip of another Christian.

The more and more I see you on this topic the more and more I feel you have your own motives to tear down this man. It says alot about your spirit. When the first group split from the CoGoP, some in CoGoP said very mean things about those who left, that was not right and neither is what some are doing to this man now. What do i think, I think that you are in One of "The Church of God's"

“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

I want to be a good man so will not stand by and do nothing

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Postby TC » November 17th, 2009, 6:45 am

Full Quiver wrote: =D> =D> =D>

Exactly!

What most cannot see because of their self righteousness is that in order to say someone is judging then they must first judge that person otherwise they couldn't come to such an opinion.


TC, had you spent half the time looking through the videos that you have spent defending Nabors then you would have seen the instance yet I am sure you would disagree.


OH I see you are sooo much better than "most" of us. RIGHT... I am calling you on your judgements, I have asked you over and over again and yet you refuse to show the point where you "judged" this man and were saying he was Lusting. It is so strange that you want to make such off the wall comments, such judgments about someone you see on a video yet time and time again when asked to back up what YOU THINK with evidence you fail... why the only reason can be is that you are LYING... YES I SAID IT.. BACK UP YOUR COMMENTS about where this man is lusting on the video or be man and a CHRISTIAN and make it right. Confession is good the the soul.

Dude let me tell you something, you can hate this man all you want, it only hurts you. but for arguments sake, lets say everything you say is true, you shoot your self in the foot with the "lust" comments. And if that is what you truly feel you would be willing to say it is in this video at 4:30 seconds or when ever. Your lack of willingness to back it up only leaves us with the conclusion that you are lying and you got caught.

If you are NOT lying then back up your comments with the time stamp, if you don't we all will know what you are.

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Postby TC » November 17th, 2009, 6:51 am

Full Q

It is impossible to prove a negative. If you want to slander a man because of a video... BE A MAN.... BE A CHRISTIAN prove it

a perfect defense to slander is proving it is true. PROVE IT

Ok I have asked you, poked you, pushed you and now I am out right calling you out... if you can not back it up admit you were wrong if you can then DO IT...

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Postby Full Quiver » November 17th, 2009, 6:58 am

TC, You can't call me out and be a Christian. The devil is the accuser so guess what that means.

You have labeled this as gossip yet you want so badly to see the video yourself. You are a hypocrite and I for one am not surprised.
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Postby TC » November 17th, 2009, 7:44 am

Full Quiver wrote:TC, You can't call me out and be a Christian. The devil is the accuser so guess what that means.

You have labeled this as gossip yet you want so badly to see the video yourself. You are a hypocrite and I for one am not surprised.


OH... so now you are saying I am not a Christian...and that is accusing me of not being a Christian so that mean YOU doing the work of the Devil...

So when Jesus called out the woman at the well... does that mean Jesus is of the devil? NO it is the same thing I am doing to you calling you on your sin of gossip

NO I don't really care if I see the video... why because I have seen all of those videos before....( unless something is there that is new) but I want see how wise you are than you can see from a video a man lusting after someone...

AGAIN... prove it... if not you are a LIAR... PROVE IT YOU LIAR... PROVE IT.... yet again you won't why because you can't You are a liar and you need to seek forgiveness for your sins, of gossip and bearing false witness. BE A MAN... BE A CHRISTIAN AND DO THE RIGHT THING...

How would you feel if this was being said about you, Your wife or one of your kids. Do you really want your kids knowing that you do such evil things, such things that are totally un Christ like.

You are two faced and a worker of evil.

OK NOW I HAVE CALLED YOU WHAT YOU ARE AGAIN... prove i am wrong... please if you don't we all know that you have no proof and you are exactly what I am saying it should be so easy for you... PROVE IT.

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Postby dawgs10 » November 17th, 2009, 7:52 am

TC wrote:
Full Quiver wrote:TC, You can't call me out and be a Christian. The devil is the accuser so guess what that means.

You have labeled this as gossip yet you want so badly to see the video yourself. You are a hypocrite and I for one am not surprised.


OH... so now you are saying I am not a Christian...and that is accusing me of not being a Christian so that mean YOU doing the work of the Devil...

So when Jesus called out the woman at the well... does that mean Jesus is of the devil? NO it is the same thing I am doing to you calling you on your sin of gossip

NO I don't really care if I see the video... why because I have seen all of those videos before....( unless something is there that is new) but I want see how wise you are than you can see from a video a man lusting after someone...

AGAIN... prove it... if not you are a LIAR... PROVE IT YOU LIAR... PROVE IT.... yet again you won't why because you can't You are a liar and you need to seek forgiveness for your sins, of gossip and bearing false witness. BE A MAN... BE A CHRISTIAN AND DO THE RIGHT THING...

How would you feel if this was being said about you, Your wife or one of your kids. Do you really want your kids knowing that you do such evil things, such things that are totally un Christ like.

You are two faced and a worker of evil.

OK NOW I HAVE CALLED YOU WHAT YOU ARE AGAIN... prove i am wrong... please if you don't we all know that you have no proof and you are exactly what I am saying it should be so easy for you... PROVE IT.


after that i would think it is appropriate for pastor gary to step in and stop this. if you think it is being a Christian to speak the way you are speaking on this thread you are wrong sir. thats from someone that could care less about this group or what they may or may not have done.

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Postby Poimen » November 17th, 2009, 7:57 am

TC,

One could say you've obeyed Proverbs 26:5:
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Now, I urge you to obey Proverbs 26:4
Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

You've done your part -- above and beyond. I wouldn't continue to waste my time arguing with them. :wink:
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You are now stooping to their level

Postby Poimen » November 17th, 2009, 8:00 am

Oops! My advice came to late it seems. :oops: :(

TC wrote: LIAR... PROVE IT YOU LIAR... PROVE IT.... yet again you won't why because you can't You are a liar ...

BE A MAN... BE A CHRISTIAN AND DO THE RIGHT THING...
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Re: Arise Shine TV

Postby dbserv » November 17th, 2009, 8:02 am

Bro. JB has this response to my post:


Hey Brother God Bless you.

I would just like to clarify for you, that I am not the owner or producer of the Arise Shine TV Program on Television or www.Youtube.com page. That is someone else in the church. Just thought I would let you know, if you could please remove such references it would be gladly appreciated.

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I don't know if this is true or not. Based on what my Google search found and what I found on the You Tube account, I am not sure that I agree with his statement.

Nevertheless, in the interest of full disclosure, there it is.

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dbserv wrote:Here's a link to over 100 videos that Bro. JB has posted on You Tube.


http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=AriseShineTV#g/u



I don't know if he "produced" them all, or not.

But, he did post them on his You Tube acct. - Arise Shine TV



So, I think that means he takes credit for them.
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Postby TC » November 17th, 2009, 9:25 am

dawgs10 wrote:
after that i would think it is appropriate for pastor gary to step in and stop this. if you think it is being a Christian to speak the way you are speaking on this thread you are wrong sir. thats from someone that could care less about this group or what they may or may not have done.


Dawgs... with all due respect what did I say or do that was not being Christian. Calling a liar a liar?

this poster has continued to state things with out facts and I am the only one calling him on it. He has not only continued to spread gossip he had made up his own lies to add to the gossip. And When called on it he is unable to back it up.

Yes i am calling him out, I am doing all I can, I want to get him so ticked that his only choice is to back up what he is saying with proof. Or We all can call every word he says into question since he is a PROVEN LIAR.

There is a simple recourse, post the link and the time stamp to show how God had so gifted him with such wisdom that he can look into a video and see what is in a mans heart. Really we need to lend him to the CIA, FBI because he could stop all evil since he can see into a mans heart and determine his desires.


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