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Postby oletimer » February 4th, 2010, 3:49 pm

Dolfan, I don't know what your margine is and it isn't none of my buiness, but I do know a little about gas pricing. Mostof the guys that I know that sale gas run from 1 to 5 cents a gallon, most average about 3 cents a gallon. Now take a fill up to be 20 gallons for some cars, then 3 cents times 20 gallons comes to 60 cents for the fill up. That means that at $2.50 for a gallon, a fill up is about $ 50.00- 60cents would leave 49.40 to be made up for a drive off. None of this includes price changes.

Small stores seldom survive for lack of other cash flow. My hat off to you for having a succesfull business.
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Postby one love » February 5th, 2010, 12:54 am

dolfan wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:
again, off brand water and fountain drinks are your highest MARKUP!!! what you are talking about is cash flow not markup or profit skus. as long as the price goes up at the pumps you guys are hurting your in store sales where the money is made. i refuse to buy anything in a station. you guys are robbing people at the pumps therefore i wont buy your drinks and gum and day old hotdogs.


Dawgs, since you know so much, tell me: how much money do we make on a gallon of gas? Go ahead and tell me. I'm going to secretly PM that information to someone I trust on this board. I am NOT going to reveal it, though, because really it is none of your business. But, I'll do this much --- I'll make my word accountable to someone else. If you guess it right on the first attempt, I'll admit it. I will give you a hint, though: for us, there's no additional gain from selling premium or mid-grade. We make the same amount per gallon regardless of the grade. If you're wrong, though, I'll have someone else to back me up on it.

If the price goes up at the pumps, we pay it. We do NOT have control over our own prices. Our gas distributor sets the retail price for our gasoline. That's our deal. When the price goes up, yes it hurts inside sales to some degree (and, it is negligible unless gas goes north of $2.85 or so per gallon and we find some other way to bring value to the customer with more and better deli offerings or what have you). But, we make LESS on each gallon as the price rises, not more. Our 'take' is flat.

It doesn't matter that fountain drinks have a higher markup. I'm never going to sell enough of them to make up for a penny per gallon of gas. If that were so, and I just wanted to help the customer save money, I'd drop my price on the drinks! (Which, actually, we did.) I've got some margin to play with there, but not on gasoline.

So, bro, you're just wrong.

And, let me add this. I don't get offended easily. I'm not offended now, but I'm about as ticked as you can probably get me. We don't serve day old anything. Truthfully, our food in our deli is so good, we have people working all the time to keep it on the steam table. We don't even serve hot dogs, by the way. Our customers don't want them --- they want real food. We have, hands down, the absolute best chicken fingers I've ever put in my mouth at any family restaurant like an Applebee's or O'Charley's or Ruby Tuesday. We have customers who will drive to our store and get chicken fingers (battered in our own handmade and hand-dipped batter by a gal named Judy who has a second job as a DJ at a karaoke bar --- which is just funny to tell and has nothing to do with anything) and then drive 2 miles to the local chicken finger-only restaurant and buy their dipping sauce for about 75 cents for a few little squares of it. We have the best fried chicken in town, too. And some of the biggest honkin' hamburgers you'll ever try to eat. We've never scored below a 95 on our health rating. We've gotten 97's the last 4 quarters in a row. And, the lady has to look hard to find something to count off on because she doesn't give more than a 97!!!

Day old hot dogs. Man, that aggravated me.

We will sell 12-13 pans of 2 dozen biscuits each on any given Mon-Sat morning. We have people lined up 10 deep at the cash register on their way to work and school in the morning for our breakfast. We will go through 3 or 4 cans of creamer and sugar EACH between opening and closing every single day.

We're busy, we're good, and we're proud of the work we do. And, we're not ripping anyone off. Our prices on every single thing we sell are at or below what our competition sells for.

We make our own fried pies, cookies, cakes, pies, you name it. Our cooks come up with some awesome ideas and we figure out what people want and we make it and we sell it. I've had people in other towns ask me what we can do to get our fried pies to them (we can't distribute them wholesale, though, because of restrictions on that sort of thing and it isn't our goal to do that). My brother, bless his heart, works like a DOG at his regular job as a district manager for a restaurant food supplier, and he is always, always coming up with new things to do and try.

We're in the process right now of building a new office in a different part of the store so we can tear out the existing one and install pizza. We've had the equipment since last summer, but delayed putting it in because we wanted to go big time with the pizza. Not frozen pizza pre-plated/pre-crusted, either, but fresh with our own handpicked ingredients and we'll assemble the things ourselves with no pre-packaged H**t Brothers kind of deal (don't want to disparage people's brands, that's why the asterisks).

Want more???


OK I have been upset about many post in the past but dawgs your last post takes the cake. From a previous business owner hearing you falsely accuse dolfan of being a thief and a crook (because that is what you did) makes me furious.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO RUN A BUSINESS. That post is a perfect example what is wrong with liberal minded people that think profit it wrong.

NEXT: IF all these stores were ROBBING you at the pump then WHY have so many went out of business since the gas crises started? Because there is no real profit in selling gasoline and they all compete over .10 a gallon so you could not rob people. It is market driven.

Dolfan I admire you and how you held your composure. It says a lot about your character and I also commend you on you business.

I remember just 3 years ago I had 16 employees and some "INSTALLERS" were on peace work and would make $800-$1600 a week laying floors and would complain ALL DAY LONG. They would assume we were making a fortune and had no clue what it is like to pay taxes, over head, materials etc.... they would just add up how much Sq. Ft. we put in and assumme we had to be rich....
Those same installers today are making about $300-$500 A week and would love to be back on my last business (though it still exist I just left my part ownership) Some have went own there own and are shocked how much insurance cost , gas, taxes etc.
I remember when gas spiked I was paying close to $3500 a week in gas to keep the vans running.

In short dolfan dawgs is a perfect example of someone that hates people that try to make a living as a evil business owner. He must hate his boss/owner. I have friends that own a gas station and people would be blown away if they knew how little people make off of gas.

Dawgs your post was accusatory and insulting to a person that has shown nothing but class and honesty on this board and I think he deserves a apology. You clearly do not know how hard it is to run a business and to throw in that he sells day old hot dogs is just hateful. I do not understand you at all.

Dolfan again I commend your business sense and you being able to stay relaxed at such a aggravating, false accusing post!
God bless you

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Postby dawgs10 » February 5th, 2010, 2:01 am

dolfan wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:
again, off brand water and fountain drinks are your highest MARKUP!!! what you are talking about is cash flow not markup or profit skus. as long as the price goes up at the pumps you guys are hurting your in store sales where the money is made. i refuse to buy anything in a station. you guys are robbing people at the pumps therefore i wont buy your drinks and gum and day old hotdogs.


Dawgs, since you know so much, tell me: how much money do we make on a gallon of gas? Go ahead and tell me. I'm going to secretly PM that information to someone I trust on this board. I am NOT going to reveal it, though, because really it is none of your business. But, I'll do this much --- I'll make my word accountable to someone else. If you guess it right on the first attempt, I'll admit it. I will give you a hint, though: for us, there's no additional gain from selling premium or mid-grade. We make the same amount per gallon regardless of the grade. If you're wrong, though, I'll have someone else to back me up on it.

If the price goes up at the pumps, we pay it. We do NOT have control over our own prices. Our gas distributor sets the retail price for our gasoline. That's our deal. When the price goes up, yes it hurts inside sales to some degree (and, it is negligible unless gas goes north of $2.85 or so per gallon and we find some other way to bring value to the customer with more and better deli offerings or what have you). But, we make LESS on each gallon as the price rises, not more. Our 'take' is flat.

It doesn't matter that fountain drinks have a higher markup. I'm never going to sell enough of them to make up for a penny per gallon of gas. If that were so, and I just wanted to help the customer save money, I'd drop my price on the drinks! (Which, actually, we did.) I've got some margin to play with there, but not on gasoline.

So, bro, you're just wrong.

And, let me add this. I don't get offended easily. I'm not offended now, but I'm about as ticked as you can probably get me. We don't serve day old anything. Truthfully, our food in our deli is so good, we have people working all the time to keep it on the steam table. We don't even serve hot dogs, by the way. Our customers don't want them --- they want real food. We have, hands down, the absolute best chicken fingers I've ever put in my mouth at any family restaurant like an Applebee's or O'Charley's or Ruby Tuesday. We have customers who will drive to our store and get chicken fingers (battered in our own handmade and hand-dipped batter by a gal named Judy who has a second job as a DJ at a karaoke bar --- which is just funny to tell and has nothing to do with anything) and then drive 2 miles to the local chicken finger-only restaurant and buy their dipping sauce for about 75 cents for a few little squares of it. We have the best fried chicken in town, too. And some of the biggest honkin' hamburgers you'll ever try to eat. We've never scored below a 95 on our health rating. We've gotten 97's the last 4 quarters in a row. And, the lady has to look hard to find something to count off on because she doesn't give more than a 97!!!

Day old hot dogs. Man, that aggravated me.

We will sell 12-13 pans of 2 dozen biscuits each on any given Mon-Sat morning. We have people lined up 10 deep at the cash register on their way to work and school in the morning for our breakfast. We will go through 3 or 4 cans of creamer and sugar EACH between opening and closing every single day.

We're busy, we're good, and we're proud of the work we do. And, we're not ripping anyone off. Our prices on every single thing we sell are at or below what our competition sells for.

We make our own fried pies, cookies, cakes, pies, you name it. Our cooks come up with some awesome ideas and we figure out what people want and we make it and we sell it. I've had people in other towns ask me what we can do to get our fried pies to them (we can't distribute them wholesale, though, because of restrictions on that sort of thing and it isn't our goal to do that). My brother, bless his heart, works like a DOG at his regular job as a district manager for a restaurant food supplier, and he is always, always coming up with new things to do and try.

We're in the process right now of building a new office in a different part of the store so we can tear out the existing one and install pizza. We've had the equipment since last summer, but delayed putting it in because we wanted to go big time with the pizza. Not frozen pizza pre-plated/pre-crusted, either, but fresh with our own handpicked ingredients and we'll assemble the things ourselves with no pre-packaged H**t Brothers kind of deal (don't want to disparage people's brands, that's why the asterisks).

Want more???


i am not pointing at your store and saying anything. i have never been in your store. (generalized statement,) about the hotdogs. and yes what we call favorite market chicken is good stuff and it sounds like your chicken is better than that. the price of gasoline has caused more of an issue during this bad economy than anything else i know. alot of people in north ga have to make a choice between gas and food. the fact is the system is broken and the retailer gets the blame. by the way i dont get gas at pay before you pump either. no one will hold my card while i pump gas. i will drive on. thats not my problem. if they dont trust me to not drive away why should i trust them with my card or money. this is one place federal regulation is needed. in the few years gas has went up from 1.99 to almost 4 dollars a gallon and a barrel of oil is at its lowest price in years, so somewhere down the line the system is broken. sorry if i pointed at you. so back to the point. Exxon and their profits should be against the law, because it plays with peoples lives while others get rich. fuel and medical treatment are two things that people cant do without so its an issue. its not like going to a clothing store and paying to much, you dont have to have it.
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Postby dawgs10 » February 5th, 2010, 2:05 am

one love wrote:
dolfan wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:
again, off brand water and fountain drinks are your highest MARKUP!!! what you are talking about is cash flow not markup or profit skus. as long as the price goes up at the pumps you guys are hurting your in store sales where the money is made. i refuse to buy anything in a station. you guys are robbing people at the pumps therefore i wont buy your drinks and gum and day old hotdogs.


Dawgs, since you know so much, tell me: how much money do we make on a gallon of gas? Go ahead and tell me. I'm going to secretly PM that information to someone I trust on this board. I am NOT going to reveal it, though, because really it is none of your business. But, I'll do this much --- I'll make my word accountable to someone else. If you guess it right on the first attempt, I'll admit it. I will give you a hint, though: for us, there's no additional gain from selling premium or mid-grade. We make the same amount per gallon regardless of the grade. If you're wrong, though, I'll have someone else to back me up on it.

If the price goes up at the pumps, we pay it. We do NOT have control over our own prices. Our gas distributor sets the retail price for our gasoline. That's our deal. When the price goes up, yes it hurts inside sales to some degree (and, it is negligible unless gas goes north of $2.85 or so per gallon and we find some other way to bring value to the customer with more and better deli offerings or what have you). But, we make LESS on each gallon as the price rises, not more. Our 'take' is flat.

It doesn't matter that fountain drinks have a higher markup. I'm never going to sell enough of them to make up for a penny per gallon of gas. If that were so, and I just wanted to help the customer save money, I'd drop my price on the drinks! (Which, actually, we did.) I've got some margin to play with there, but not on gasoline.

So, bro, you're just wrong.

And, let me add this. I don't get offended easily. I'm not offended now, but I'm about as ticked as you can probably get me. We don't serve day old anything. Truthfully, our food in our deli is so good, we have people working all the time to keep it on the steam table. We don't even serve hot dogs, by the way. Our customers don't want them --- they want real food. We have, hands down, the absolute best chicken fingers I've ever put in my mouth at any family restaurant like an Applebee's or O'Charley's or Ruby Tuesday. We have customers who will drive to our store and get chicken fingers (battered in our own handmade and hand-dipped batter by a gal named Judy who has a second job as a DJ at a karaoke bar --- which is just funny to tell and has nothing to do with anything) and then drive 2 miles to the local chicken finger-only restaurant and buy their dipping sauce for about 75 cents for a few little squares of it. We have the best fried chicken in town, too. And some of the biggest honkin' hamburgers you'll ever try to eat. We've never scored below a 95 on our health rating. We've gotten 97's the last 4 quarters in a row. And, the lady has to look hard to find something to count off on because she doesn't give more than a 97!!!

Day old hot dogs. Man, that aggravated me.

We will sell 12-13 pans of 2 dozen biscuits each on any given Mon-Sat morning. We have people lined up 10 deep at the cash register on their way to work and school in the morning for our breakfast. We will go through 3 or 4 cans of creamer and sugar EACH between opening and closing every single day.

We're busy, we're good, and we're proud of the work we do. And, we're not ripping anyone off. Our prices on every single thing we sell are at or below what our competition sells for.

We make our own fried pies, cookies, cakes, pies, you name it. Our cooks come up with some awesome ideas and we figure out what people want and we make it and we sell it. I've had people in other towns ask me what we can do to get our fried pies to them (we can't distribute them wholesale, though, because of restrictions on that sort of thing and it isn't our goal to do that). My brother, bless his heart, works like a DOG at his regular job as a district manager for a restaurant food supplier, and he is always, always coming up with new things to do and try.

We're in the process right now of building a new office in a different part of the store so we can tear out the existing one and install pizza. We've had the equipment since last summer, but delayed putting it in because we wanted to go big time with the pizza. Not frozen pizza pre-plated/pre-crusted, either, but fresh with our own handpicked ingredients and we'll assemble the things ourselves with no pre-packaged H**t Brothers kind of deal (don't want to disparage people's brands, that's why the asterisks).

Want more???


OK I have been upset about many post in the past but dawgs your last post takes the cake. From a previous business owner hearing you falsely accuse dolfan of being a thief and a crook (because that is what you did) makes me furious.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO RUN A BUSINESS. That post is a perfect example what is wrong with liberal minded people that think profit it wrong.

NEXT: IF all these stores were ROBBING you at the pump then WHY have so many went out of business since the gas crises started? Because there is no real profit in selling gasoline and they all compete over .10 a gallon so you could not rob people. It is market driven.

Dolfan I admire you and how you held your composure. It says a lot about your character and I also commend you on you business.

I remember just 3 years ago I had 16 employees and some "INSTALLERS" were on peace work and would make $800-$1600 a week laying floors and would complain ALL DAY LONG. They would assume we were making a fortune and had no clue what it is like to pay taxes, over head, materials etc.... they would just add up how much Sq. Ft. we put in and assumme we had to be rich....
Those same installers today are making about $300-$500 A week and would love to be back on my last business (though it still exist I just left my part ownership) Some have went own there own and are shocked how much insurance cost , gas, taxes etc.
I remember when gas spiked I was paying close to $3500 a week in gas to keep the vans running.

In short dolfan dawgs is a perfect example of someone that hates people that try to make a living as a evil business owner. He must hate his boss/owner. I have friends that own a gas station and people would be blown away if they knew how little people make off of gas.

Dawgs your post was accusatory and insulting to a person that has shown nothing but class and honesty on this board and I think he deserves a apology. You clearly do not know how hard it is to run a business and to throw in that he sells day old hot dogs is just hateful. I do not understand you at all.

Dolfan again I commend your business sense and you being able to stay relaxed at such a aggravating, false accusing post!
God bless you


i ran a store with (in store sales only) of around 3 million a year for 10 years. so yes i know what is to run a retail store.

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Postby Full Quiver » February 5th, 2010, 3:59 am

Dawgs, since you ran a store for so many years and since you feel that such activity was criminal I must ask have you repented of your sins and crimes? Have you made restitution to all the many patrons of said store than you so willingly ripped off over that 10 year period, and when will you turn yourself into the police/authorities?

Have you ever been on America's Most Wanted? :lol:
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Postby Full Quiver » February 5th, 2010, 4:02 am

Dolfan, reading about your store makes me want to make a day trip to Alabama and have breakfast there.

Bravo and great for you!!! :D
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Postby dolfan » February 5th, 2010, 4:50 am

Full Quiver wrote:Dolfan, reading about your store makes me want to make a day trip to Alabama and have breakfast there.

Bravo and great for you!!! :D


Everybody's invited! :lol: And, as I appreciate the compliments, I have to tell you that the deli success has almost zero to do with me. Other people are chiefly responsible, not the least of whom is my brother, the food service genius as far as I'm concerned. We do buy our food from the company he works for, and having his guidance on our deli is beyond priceless. We also have some good cooks, and when they do well what they do best it is almost like magic on the customers. I have laughed in amazement more times than I can count. Simple things done well and not being afraid to try new things has been a boon to making our customers happy.

And, Dawgs, you and me, we're good. I did take what you said as directed against us, and too many people are putting in honest work to let that go. But, I take you at your word and we'll just keep rocking on here.
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Postby MacUser » February 5th, 2010, 5:14 am

dawgs10 wrote:fuel and medical treatment are two things that people cant do without so its an issue.


Why stop with Fuel and Medical? What about a place to live? A place to stay warm? Wait.. some of this does already exist.

In my area people already get free medical and apartments fully furnished for not having a job. For about $100 month they can upgrade and get free brand new fully furnished 3 bedroom house with garage!

The upside/perk is that since they get literally free houses in literally gated communities.. ( where they don't even cut the grass as it's handled by Govt contractors ) they typically drive 60 grand automobiles by Cadillac and Lincoln and wear expensive designer clothes. Also have up to two extra vehicles less that 3-4 years old in front of the free house also.

I'm absolutely sure they would love the free gas. Yet another thing off the list.

At some point Dawgs. The madness of wasting trillions as the nation goes bankrupt has to stop. Where are the adults?
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Postby one love » February 5th, 2010, 6:38 am

dawgs10 wrote:
one love wrote:
dolfan wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:
again, off brand water and fountain drinks are your highest MARKUP!!! what you are talking about is cash flow not markup or profit skus. as long as the price goes up at the pumps you guys are hurting your in store sales where the money is made. i refuse to buy anything in a station. you guys are robbing people at the pumps therefore i wont buy your drinks and gum and day old hotdogs.


Dawgs, since you know so much, tell me: how much money do we make on a gallon of gas? Go ahead and tell me. I'm going to secretly PM that information to someone I trust on this board. I am NOT going to reveal it, though, because really it is none of your business. But, I'll do this much --- I'll make my word accountable to someone else. If you guess it right on the first attempt, I'll admit it. I will give you a hint, though: for us, there's no additional gain from selling premium or mid-grade. We make the same amount per gallon regardless of the grade. If you're wrong, though, I'll have someone else to back me up on it.

If the price goes up at the pumps, we pay it. We do NOT have control over our own prices. Our gas distributor sets the retail price for our gasoline. That's our deal. When the price goes up, yes it hurts inside sales to some degree (and, it is negligible unless gas goes north of $2.85 or so per gallon and we find some other way to bring value to the customer with more and better deli offerings or what have you). But, we make LESS on each gallon as the price rises, not more. Our 'take' is flat.

It doesn't matter that fountain drinks have a higher markup. I'm never going to sell enough of them to make up for a penny per gallon of gas. If that were so, and I just wanted to help the customer save money, I'd drop my price on the drinks! (Which, actually, we did.) I've got some margin to play with there, but not on gasoline.

So, bro, you're just wrong.

And, let me add this. I don't get offended easily. I'm not offended now, but I'm about as ticked as you can probably get me. We don't serve day old anything. Truthfully, our food in our deli is so good, we have people working all the time to keep it on the steam table. We don't even serve hot dogs, by the way. Our customers don't want them --- they want real food. We have, hands down, the absolute best chicken fingers I've ever put in my mouth at any family restaurant like an Applebee's or O'Charley's or Ruby Tuesday. We have customers who will drive to our store and get chicken fingers (battered in our own handmade and hand-dipped batter by a gal named Judy who has a second job as a DJ at a karaoke bar --- which is just funny to tell and has nothing to do with anything) and then drive 2 miles to the local chicken finger-only restaurant and buy their dipping sauce for about 75 cents for a few little squares of it. We have the best fried chicken in town, too. And some of the biggest honkin' hamburgers you'll ever try to eat. We've never scored below a 95 on our health rating. We've gotten 97's the last 4 quarters in a row. And, the lady has to look hard to find something to count off on because she doesn't give more than a 97!!!

Day old hot dogs. Man, that aggravated me.

We will sell 12-13 pans of 2 dozen biscuits each on any given Mon-Sat morning. We have people lined up 10 deep at the cash register on their way to work and school in the morning for our breakfast. We will go through 3 or 4 cans of creamer and sugar EACH between opening and closing every single day.

We're busy, we're good, and we're proud of the work we do. And, we're not ripping anyone off. Our prices on every single thing we sell are at or below what our competition sells for.

We make our own fried pies, cookies, cakes, pies, you name it. Our cooks come up with some awesome ideas and we figure out what people want and we make it and we sell it. I've had people in other towns ask me what we can do to get our fried pies to them (we can't distribute them wholesale, though, because of restrictions on that sort of thing and it isn't our goal to do that). My brother, bless his heart, works like a DOG at his regular job as a district manager for a restaurant food supplier, and he is always, always coming up with new things to do and try.

We're in the process right now of building a new office in a different part of the store so we can tear out the existing one and install pizza. We've had the equipment since last summer, but delayed putting it in because we wanted to go big time with the pizza. Not frozen pizza pre-plated/pre-crusted, either, but fresh with our own handpicked ingredients and we'll assemble the things ourselves with no pre-packaged H**t Brothers kind of deal (don't want to disparage people's brands, that's why the asterisks).

Want more???


OK I have been upset about many post in the past but dawgs your last post takes the cake. From a previous business owner hearing you falsely accuse dolfan of being a thief and a crook (because that is what you did) makes me furious.
YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS TO RUN A BUSINESS. That post is a perfect example what is wrong with liberal minded people that think profit it wrong.

NEXT: IF all these stores were ROBBING you at the pump then WHY have so many went out of business since the gas crises started? Because there is no real profit in selling gasoline and they all compete over .10 a gallon so you could not rob people. It is market driven.

Dolfan I admire you and how you held your composure. It says a lot about your character and I also commend you on you business.

I remember just 3 years ago I had 16 employees and some "INSTALLERS" were on peace work and would make $800-$1600 a week laying floors and would complain ALL DAY LONG. They would assume we were making a fortune and had no clue what it is like to pay taxes, over head, materials etc.... they would just add up how much Sq. Ft. we put in and assumme we had to be rich....
Those same installers today are making about $300-$500 A week and would love to be back on my last business (though it still exist I just left my part ownership) Some have went own there own and are shocked how much insurance cost , gas, taxes etc.
I remember when gas spiked I was paying close to $3500 a week in gas to keep the vans running.

In short dolfan dawgs is a perfect example of someone that hates people that try to make a living as a evil business owner. He must hate his boss/owner. I have friends that own a gas station and people would be blown away if they knew how little people make off of gas.

Dawgs your post was accusatory and insulting to a person that has shown nothing but class and honesty on this board and I think he deserves a apology. You clearly do not know how hard it is to run a business and to throw in that he sells day old hot dogs is just hateful. I do not understand you at all.

Dolfan again I commend your business sense and you being able to stay relaxed at such a aggravating, false accusing post!
God bless you


i ran a store with (in store sales only) of around 3 million a year for 10 years. so yes i know what is to run a retail store.


Well your post does not give that impression. Based on your comments you would be broke. BTW you have to have pay before you pump, I would never have a gas station in a city without that. If one person runs without paying do you know how many people that would have to buy gas to make up for that one loss?

You say you ran a store DID YOU OWN THE STORE AND HAVE FULL RESPONSIBILITY? DID YOU HIRE AND FIRE? PAY THE BILLS? TAXES? CHECK MARGINS VERSES INVENTORY?
Please answer that for me because you do not sound like a person that has been down that road and I could be wrong, sorry If I am.

BTW gas has not been $4 in over a year.... it is climbing back up again though...it maybe where you live but not here in NC

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Postby one love » February 5th, 2010, 3:32 pm

dawgs could you please answer the question? I would also like to know what kind of business you ran/managed/owned....

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Postby dawgs10 » February 6th, 2010, 4:57 am

Full Quiver wrote:Dawgs, since you ran a store for so many years and since you feel that such activity was criminal I must ask have you repented of your sins and crimes? Have you made restitution to all the many patrons of said store than you so willingly ripped off over that 10 year period, and when will you turn yourself into the police/authorities?

Have you ever been on America's Most Wanted? :lol:


the stand i took would have cost my job if i had not walked away when i did. and yes i been on AMW at least 3 times. :lol:

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Postby dawgs10 » February 6th, 2010, 5:00 am

MacUser wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:fuel and medical treatment are two things that people cant do without so its an issue.


Why stop with Fuel and Medical? What about a place to live? A place to stay warm? Wait.. some of this does already exist.

In my area people already get free medical and apartments fully furnished for not having a job. For about $100 month they can upgrade and get free brand new fully furnished 3 bedroom house with garage!

The upside/perk is that since they get literally free houses in literally gated communities.. ( where they don't even cut the grass as it's handled by Govt contractors ) they typically drive 60 grand automobiles by Cadillac and Lincoln and wear expensive designer clothes. Also have up to two extra vehicles less that 3-4 years old in front of the free house also.

I'm absolutely sure they would love the free gas. Yet another thing off the list.

At some point Dawgs. The madness of wasting trillions as the nation goes bankrupt has to stop. Where are the adults?


i do not disagree with this statement completely. although it is a general statement and a narrow view when looking at america as a whole.

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Postby dawgs10 » February 6th, 2010, 5:02 am

one love wrote:dawgs could you please answer the question? I would also like to know what kind of business you ran/managed/owned....


i was a store manager with Freds for five years, and a store manager with Eckerd/rite aid for 10 years. and yes, i had complete ownership. the margin, cash flow, profitability, human resources, merchandising, were all my responsibility. i was very successfull. bonused every year. worked 60 hours a week for around 15 years. you cant tell me much that i dont know about retail. thats why i walked away from it.

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Postby one love » February 7th, 2010, 8:48 am

dawgs10 wrote:
one love wrote:dawgs could you please answer the question? I would also like to know what kind of business you ran/managed/owned....


i was a store manager with Freds for five years, and a store manager with Eckerd/rite aid for 10 years. and yes, i had complete ownership. the margin, cash flow, profitability, human resources, merchandising, were all my responsibility. i was very successfull. bonused every year. worked 60 hours a week for around 15 years. you cant tell me much that i dont know about retail. thats why i walked away from it.


how can you have complete ownership and be a manager...sorry a but confused.

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Postby dawgs10 » February 7th, 2010, 9:48 am

one love wrote:
dawgs10 wrote:
one love wrote:dawgs could you please answer the question? I would also like to know what kind of business you ran/managed/owned....


i was a store manager with Freds for five years, and a store manager with Eckerd/rite aid for 10 years. and yes, i had complete ownership. the margin, cash flow, profitability, human resources, merchandising, were all my responsibility. i was very successfull. bonused every year. worked 60 hours a week for around 15 years. you cant tell me much that i dont know about retail. thats why i walked away from it.


how can you have complete ownership and be a manager...sorry a but confused.


complete ownership of those things listed. if you have never been a retail manager you would be a bit confused. yes you have supervisors that do punch lists to make sure you are up to standard but in most retail companies are encouraged to have ownership in your store. trust me one love, your attempt to belittle my experience in retail is a waste of your time. i got out of it because i know the markup in retail. i got out of it because i refuse to run stores with part time people while trying to keep them part time for life so we dont have to pay for health care with full time folks. what i would ask one love is what kind of retail experience do have. have you ran a 3 million a year store for 15 years? then dont question me in a way that would try to prove me a liar. i felt the call into ministry and left retail. but my retail knowledge and experience is still there. and i know you make 50 to 60 percent on off brand bottled water which by unit is one of the hottest items at check out coolers. i know that the icee machines are huge profit. the cup its self has a higher cost than the product. i know that there is a reason the candy bars are at checkout. (so the kids will flip out for one, while the parents are waiting in line to buy their 50.00 dollar a carton cigs!!) that the store makes very little on. i know that the reason the stop smoking section is next to the cig counter is because there is a huge mark up in nicotine patches and one day the store wants you to be addicted so you will buy both. do you know what the average mark up on over the counter store brand cough meds are. 60% and higer. its sad what world we are living in when the dollar is more important than people. but the day is coming when the dollar will not be worth a thing. we will take a mark to buy food. all thats coming. so maybe we should just stop worry about making so much money, and start focusing on people.


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