Unnatural Abomination

beckrl · Postby **beckrl** » February 1st, 2010, 4:39 pm

Two women who altered their appearances to be men, married each other. Inseminated and impregnated themselves and now identify as “gay men who are pregnant”. This why GOD calls it abomination because such wickedness knows no boundaries. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: Roman 1:26

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2 ... ruary.html

Postby **Shellie** » February 2nd, 2010, 2:19 am

Makes me wonder just how worse it can get.........

It amazes me what people accept as "normal".

dolfan · Postby **dolfan** » February 2nd, 2010, 7:07 am

It is mind-blowingly stupefying and scary.

beckrl · Postby **beckrl** » February 2nd, 2010, 10:51 am

The worst is that it is accepted and now "common" and is creeping into the churches. And accepted in some churches as being another type of marriage.

oletimer · Postby **oletimer** » February 2nd, 2010, 11:52 am

Sodom, and Gomorrah

The things that seems to be becoming norm now were also the norm in the days of Sodom, and Gomorrah.

Ge 18:20
And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

I've thought about what it is about this type of sins that makes it an abomination before God, then I remember in Genesis where God said:

Ge 1:26
¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Ge 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

In all the other sins man seem to sin against himself and and other men. But in this type of sin it is direct against God. I think that is why it is abomination before God.

What is more shocken is that it is in our churches and the leadership doesn't seem to want to do anything about it. I'm not talking about running them off but alouding them leadership rolls and failure to let them know what is sin.

And accepted in some churches as being another type of marriage.

My thought is who will give the most account for all this, those that are in the sin and it is a sin, or those that aloud stuff lie this to go o in their churches. Again I'm not talking about runing them off and trying to win them, but treating them as though they are saved and aloud them to hold down offices in the churches.

dimes worth

valley · Postby **valley** » February 4th, 2010, 11:21 am

Sodom's sins were pride, laziness, and gluttony, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door. She was proud and did loathsome things, so I wiped her out, as you have seen.--Ezekiel 16:49-50

This sins of Sodom are rampant in the church even if there are no homosexuals there. ;-)

Full Quiver · Postby **Full Quiver** » February 5th, 2010, 4:28 am

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

valley · Postby **valley** » February 5th, 2010, 11:48 am

Full Quiver wrote:Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Now we're talking holiness once again. I would say rape, adultry, looking at porn, and/or any sexual activity outside the marrital relationship is "going after strange flesh."

Postby **Pastor Gary** » February 5th, 2010, 12:49 pm

valley wrote:
Full Quiver wrote:Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Now we're talking holiness once again. I would say rape, adultry, looking at porn, and/or any sexual activity outside the marrital relationship is "going after strange flesh."

Valley: do you believe that homosexual acts are compatible with living a holy life and following Christ? Do you believe one who lives a partnered gay life will go to heaven?

Poimen · Postby **Poimen** » February 5th, 2010, 1:27 pm

valley wrote:
Full Quiver wrote:Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Now we're talking holiness once again. I would say rape, adultry, looking at porn, and/or any sexual activity outside the marrital relationship is "going after strange flesh."

Your close to right. All of that would be fornication, as would homosexuality, which was also a form of fornication committed in Sodom.

The strange flesh remark refers to their desire to engage the visiting "men" with Lot in homosexual sex, indeed homosexual rape. However, though called "men", and appearing like unto men, they where in fact Angels. Strange flesh then is a reference to their different bodily nature, no matter how human they appeared.

beckrl · Postby **beckrl** » February 5th, 2010, 2:17 pm

Full Quiver wrote:Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

Jude 1:7

Mike Vande · Postby **Mike Vande** » February 6th, 2010, 2:17 am

valley wrote:Sodom's sins were pride, laziness, and gluttony, while the poor and needy suffered outside her door. She was proud and did loathsome things, so I wiped her out, as you have seen.--Ezekiel 16:49-50

This sins of Sodom are rampant in the church even if there are no homosexuals there.

+1

Mike Vande · Postby **Mike Vande** » February 6th, 2010, 2:26 am

Pastor Gary wrote:Valley: do you believe that homosexual acts are compatible with living a holy life and following Christ? Do you believe one who lives a partnered gay life will go to heaven?

I don't know about Valley, but my take on the scriptures mentioned is that one caused or allowed the other. Pride, laziness, and gluttony caused the society of Sodom to let a lot of things slide that God hates, including homosexuality. Sound familiar? It should; it's the position Western society is in now.

Mike Vande · Postby **Mike Vande** » February 6th, 2010, 2:26 am

Pastor Gary wrote:Valley: do you believe that homosexual acts are compatible with living a holy life and following Christ? Do you believe one who lives a partnered gay life will go to heaven?

I don't know about Valley, but my take on the scriptures mentioned is that one caused or allowed the other. Pride, laziness, and gluttony caused the society of Sodom to let a lot of things slide that God hates, including homosexuality. Sound familiar? It should; it's the position Western society is in now.

beckrl · Postby **beckrl** » February 6th, 2010, 9:07 am

The thing is that the world will become more wicked as time continues, but what about the true church, will we accept this alternative relationship or call it an Unnatural Abomination?

I see many things that are now allowed in our church [COGOP] others, [COGIC, RCC] allowing homosexuals to become and remain ministers.
Will we follow these two in the future?

Jude 2