TW Posted:oletimer wrote:
My thoughts are that neither are Christians as neither meet the criterion for salvation.
Is that a fact? The Bible is very clear about the criterion for salvation, and it happens to be my favorite verse in the entire Bible. It is the only criterion.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
And yes, they are in red, the words of our Lord Jesus. Can you tell me what someone else believes, what I believe? The answer is, NO! My job as a Christian is to tell them the "Good News," not to convict them. That is the job of the Holy Spirit, and I'm not qualified to do that work.
My job and calling is to preach the whole truth. I guess that John should have kept his mouth shut or just told Herod what he wanted to hear instead of the truth.
Ro 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
TW when you tell the good news then you need to tell them the whole truth and keep it contexts. The part "whosoever believeth in him should not perish,". The part of "believeth" carries with it more just the knowledge of Christ as being the Son of God, but more so the commitment of ones soul to Christ thru repentances
2Co 7:10
For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Now I know people say to work out your own salvation, but they need to read the rest of the verse "with fear and trembling.". I fear that those that try to walk as close to the line as possible is problely all ready on the other side of the line, sad. Many times this is because no body told them better, even sadder.
Php 2:12
¶ Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
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