Christian militia group Arrested

[MacUser]

Seven arrested in FBI raids linked to Christian militia group

http://detnews.com/article/20100328/MET ... tia-group=

"Last night and into today the FBI conducted a raid against homes belonging to the Hutaree. They are a religious cult. They are not part of our militia community," he said.

Lackomar said he was told there were five arrests Saturday and another five early Sunday. The FBI declined to comment.

One of the Hutaree members called a Michigan militia leader for assistance Saturday after federal agents had already began their raid, Lackomar said, but the militia member -- who is of Islamic decent and had heard about the threats -- declined to offer help. That Michigan militia leader is now working with federal officials to provide information on the Hutaree member for the investigation, Lackomar said Sunday

"They are more of survivalist group and in an emergency they withdraw and stand their ground. They are actively training to be alongside Jesus," he said.

...Dawud Walid, executive director of the Council on Islamic-American Relations of Michigan, made an announcement Sunday during the group's 10th anniversary banquet about receiving a call from a network journalist about the alleged threat against Muslims.

"Don't allow this news to scare you away from practicing your [ muslim ] faith," said Walid. Audible gaps were heard throughout the banquet hall ... He urged local Muslims to recommitt themselves to their faith in light of the accusations.



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I'm sorry this story seems extremely ODD on several levels.

If it ever were a time to stop playing Church / Church building politics and simply share the true Good News of Gospel of Jesus Christ.. this is it.

[dolfan]

When I read that yesterday, the spin was so hard on it that I almost laughed rather than gasping in shock. Actually, honestly, it isn't even shocking. Dumb? Yeah. Shocking? No. The indictment unsealed today that describes their plan -- as you read the accusations, you can't help expecting Bill Engvall to show up and say, "Here's your sign." What a bunch of morons.

[MacUser]

When I read that yesterday, the spin was so hard on it that I almost laughed rather than gasping in shock

Exactly. Don't drink and read anymore or you are likely to also get a nasal flush..

[rough_rider]

Those yankee Americans, just a bunch of "Confederate American" wannabes...

[pastorables]

The story gets more interesting.

FBI agents arrested at least three suspected members of a Christian militia group during raids across three states over the weekend.

The raids took place in Michigan, Indiana and Ohio and were targeted at the Hutaree group which claims to be preparing for a battle against 'an Anti-Christ'.

A law enforcement official said the people arrested, believed to include the leader of the militia, face gun charges.

[Brian]

When I read that yesterday, the spin was so hard on it that I almost laughed rather than gasping in shock. Actually, honestly, it isn't even shocking. Dumb? Yeah. Shocking? No. The indictment unsealed today that describes their plan -- as you read the accusations, you can't help expecting Bill Engvall to show up and say, "Here's your sign." What a bunch of morons.

dolfan, sorry man but I can't tell by your post who you consider the "morons" to be?

[Mole_J]

This is their website, it is still up:
http://www.hutaree.com/

[MacUser]

Actively following Jesus ( as the above story describes ).. Militia *ahem* CHRISTIANS plans of terror continue??

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100329/D9EOISE80.html

Nine alleged members of a Christian militia group that was girding for battle with the Antichrist were charged Monday with plotting to kill a police officer and slaughter scores more by bombing the funeral.

The arrests have dealt "a severe blow to a dangerous organization that today stands accused of conspiring to levy war against the United States," Attorney General Eric Holder said.

Authorities said the arrests underscored the dangers of homegrown right-wing extremism

Does that last bit sound like a TEA PARTY JAB or what? Trying desperately to brand this sleeping giant as extremists.

Beam me up Scotty.

[dolfan]

When I read that yesterday, the spin was so hard on it that I almost laughed rather than gasping in shock. Actually, honestly, it isn't even shocking. Dumb? Yeah. Shocking? No. The indictment unsealed today that describes their plan -- as you read the accusations, you can't help expecting Bill Engvall to show up and say, "Here's your sign." What a bunch of morons.

dolfan, sorry man but I can't tell by your post who you consider the "morons" to be?

Really?! Ok. Well, let's see. Who had the family sit-down with this conversation?:

Daddy Nut: "Okay, I've convened this meeting of the first division of the Hutaree Militia, order of the Forces Opposing Obama's Liberalism. Now --"

Momma Nut: "Honey, I'm gonna take notes."

Daddy: "You do that. That's an order."

Momma: "You large and in charge hunk of masculinity, you. (Wink)."

Daddy: "Now, first thing --"

Momma: "Oh, sweetie, I was just looking at my notes, and maybe it's just my handwriting, but I think you just named us the order of FOOLs."

Daddy: "Lemme see that. ...... Huh. Okay, first thing, we're now known as the Order of the....Militia Opposing Revelations, only we're not opposing Revelations exactly, but we're opposing Obama because he's like Nero and has to be stopped. So, ummm, we're the Militia Opposing Revelations, and add in parentheses, (Obama Nero). Now everybody will know exactly what we are."

Momma: (to herself, mumbling) M...O....R...O...N. That's much better."

Daddy: "Okay, what we're gonna do, see, is this. We're all Christian soldiers, marching as to war. I've been looking online, and there are some really good deals on load-your-own ammo, and I've already ordered about 800 rounds. Now, what I figure is this. Obama is the Antichrist. I mean, that goes without saying, but there, I said it. That's out there."

Momma: (mumbling, writing) "800 rounds of ammo. Obama is Antichrist. Got it."

Daddy: "Now, I know what he's waiting on, see, and it's this. He's waiting on Jesus to draw him out. See, he's too smart to, to just up and say, 'Hey, everybody, I'm the agent of Beelzebub.' He's pretty book smart, and he's common sense dumb, but he IS the Antichrist, so he's not THAT dumb, alright? But, he has read the Book y'know? And, he already knows the end of the story."

Junior: "Amen, Daddy."

Momma: (mumbles, writes) "The end"

Daddy: "So, here's what we'll do. This is it. Now listen, Junior. You, you son, are the one that will reveal to the world that Obama is the antichrist. You'll be on the news and everything. But, the bad news is you probably won't live to see it."

Junior: "Wha-?"

Daddy: (to Momma) "Sugar are you getting this down?" (to Junior) "Son, you've got to pop a cap in a cop. That'll make you a cop killer. But, if we don't, son, then no one will know that Obama is the Antichrist. See, he's got to have permission and authority to show who he really is. That's a law, son. Antichrist can't show who he is without permission and authority. See, he's already got the robe of authority on because he's the president, but he needs a REASON to step up there and BE the antichrist, to come out and show it. You, son, are that reason."

Junior: "Momma, put your pen down for a minute. Daddy, I am not shooting a cop. They'll kill me."

Daddy: (Laughs) "Of course they will, son, that's the beauty of it. Because Obama's got to have a sacrifice. You'll get way more than you ever dreamed of in heaven by sacrificing now. Let me set this straight. You kill a cop. You can do it like, I don't know, a sniper. Then, when they have the funeral for him, we're going to bomb the living crap out of them at the funeral. When all those people die, Obama will come screaming in here like a bat out of hell, LITERALLY, with his old Muslim nostrils just blazing with fury. Of course, you'll die then because he's going to have to kill SOMEBODY to put on like he's really upset that all these innocent people died for no good reason. But, what you're really doing is unleashing World War III, because me and you're Momma and the rest of us..."

Momma: "You do know I'm not writing this down."

Daddy: "Me and your Momma and the rest of us will rain down 790 rounds of pure 'd hellfire on them and all of 'em will have to come in and squash us like bugs. Now, who else would do such a thing to Israel-supporting American citizens BUT the Antichrist. Huh? Tell me that. ....... What? Nothing? (Looks around the room to silent faces, staring). That's because the Antichrist will have nothing left to say but the TRUTH, that he, Obama, is THE Antichrist of the Apocalypse. I'm telling you, THIS is the key to the return of Jesus to this earth and you, Junior ... YOU will be like a, a, a, John the Baptist, making way for him to come. Are you with me?"

And the rest is history.

Why would it appear that anyone else but these people are the morons? I don't get it.

[Brian]

Why would it appear that anyone else but these people are the morons? I don't get it.

ok ok sorry but when I first read macUsers post and then your comment I barely knew who the group was. The only thing I gleaned from Macs post was that some "christian militia" were arrested while some "muslim militia" were aiding the police. The christian militia are the radical dangerous ones while the muslim militia are the good guys helping the police.

After reading a bit more of who these people are I definitely see how they are in fact a bunch of morons. sorry I guess I wasn't paying attention.

[macgulley]

Only 800 rounds?? That's barely enough for a good weekend of plinking.

[dolfan]

Only 800 rounds?? That's barely enough for a good weekend of plinking.

I know! I figured that's probably about how stupid they were. Plus it was about 750 more than they would've ever gotten off before they were eviscerated by law enforcement.