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Postby dawgs10 » June 12th, 2010, 5:09 am

i can name three that i know personaly right now. without support from the gov. they would not be able to make it in life. the fact is the tea party folks dont want anyone to get any help what so ever if it means more taxes. thats the bottom line. its not the debt they are worried about. its the taxes they have to pay. yes there is some that cheat the system. so is the answer to do away with the system? of course not. i work with families that cant work and want to. should they be turned out into the cold. no. does the tea party want them to be. yes, if it saves them from paying taxes.

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Postby MacUser » June 12th, 2010, 8:58 am

On my iPhone...

But whatever makes you sleep better at night. Enslaving future generations so you can get free stuff now. Shameful and insulting in your demonization of the majority of responsible Americans..
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Postby Brian » June 12th, 2010, 3:44 pm

dawgs10 wrote:name one thing i have said that is not true. i can show you tea party goers spitting on people and calling people names. i can show time after time in this countries history people using the term state rights in a way which runs gov. without any restraint. in other words majority rules which is not a republic. a gov. body that does not care about the people they serve. putting an idea or a plan or a way of thinking over people. i have said this over and over and what do you do. resort to name calling.


It isn't about the governing body not caring about it's people......it's about a governing body not taking care of it's people!
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Postby Shellie » June 13th, 2010, 1:37 am

dawgs wrote:

i can show you tea party goers spitting on people and calling people names. i can show time after time in this countries history people using the term state rights in a way which runs gov. without any restraint. in other words majority rules which is not a republic.


Show me.
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Postby one love » June 13th, 2010, 6:52 am

Shellie wrote:dawgs wrote:

i can show you tea party goers spitting on people and calling people names. i can show time after time in this countries history people using the term state rights in a way which runs gov. without any restraint. in other words majority rules which is not a republic.


Show me.


yeah you said it prove it...

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Postby dawgs10 » June 13th, 2010, 9:37 am

one love wrote:
Shellie wrote:dawgs wrote:

i can show you tea party goers spitting on people and calling people names. i can show time after time in this countries history people using the term state rights in a way which runs gov. without any restraint. in other words majority rules which is not a republic.


Show me.


yeah you said it prove it...


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 02556.html

just one of many!!

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Postby Shellie » June 13th, 2010, 9:51 am

Tea party member spitting on Cleaver? Watch the whole video.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4128503/tea-party-protester-spits-on-congressman

Racial epitaphs? I believe the article says "accused of".

Not saying that epitaphs have not been uttered...(there are stupid people in every group of life).

What I am challenging is your statements of supposed fact that there are many, many cases of this.

Try again.
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Postby dawgs10 » June 13th, 2010, 10:03 am

Shellie wrote:Tea party member spitting on Cleaver? Watch the whole video.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4128503/tea-party-protester-spits-on-congressman

Racial epitaphs? I believe the article says "accused of".

Not saying that epitaphs have not been uttered...(there are stupid people in every group of life).

What I am challenging is your statements of supposed fact that there are many, many cases of this.

Try again.



http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c ... g_hisp.php

here is another.

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Postby dawgs10 » June 13th, 2010, 10:21 am

and another. (i have checked for bad language so i want to aplogize if i missed any).
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Postby scooter » June 13th, 2010, 1:47 pm

I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry.

Like I couldn't google the name Smith and come up with a few bad apples.

You are listening to the wrong people. :cry:

BTW if that's spitting I spit on people almost every Sunday. :lol:
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Postby dawgs10 » June 13th, 2010, 2:44 pm

examples are just that. i can continue but the fact is its not a few bad apples. its an undercurrent. i am afraid that we are so worried about the future that we will be willing to hook our wagons to just about anyone. kind of like how obama got elected.

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Postby TW » June 13th, 2010, 5:04 pm

dawgs10,
You have ranted about State Rights long enough! We have a Constitution, which is the highest law of the land. That Constitution grants the Federal Government certain powers. These are listed in Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution.
Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.


No where else within the Constitution, or in the Amendments thereto are any of these powers revoked or modified.

The first ten amendments are known as the Bill of Rights. Look closely at Number X.

Article X
The powers not delegated to the United States by Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


Now make the choice. Do you support a Constitutional Government, or one that has assumed illegal powers beyond the scope of law.


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Postby dawgs10 » June 14th, 2010, 1:42 am

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;


THE POWER TO LAY AND COLLECT TAXES i rest my case. hey tea party people, shut up get off the streets and start paying this debt off with your taxes. if you dont like it, to bad!!!! its the only way it will go away. stop screaming at people that cant walk while throwing dollar bills at them like they are evil. have a heart and then put it above your wallet!!!

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Postby scooter » June 14th, 2010, 3:11 am

What we need here is a good revival! lol


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