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Postby dolfan » June 14th, 2010, 9:29 am

I just saw this and I'm PROUD this guy is from my state. I wish he was in my district.

http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/06/ala ... ate_r.html

Read the story, click the link and watch the YouTube vid.
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Postby TW » June 14th, 2010, 9:39 am

Excellent!


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Postby bought » June 14th, 2010, 10:20 am

I'm ready to join. :

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Postby dawgs10 » June 14th, 2010, 1:57 pm

my point is proven. the confederate states of the morons!!!!!! i was the president i would have him brought up on charges and hung in the middle of washington dc as a traitor and a turn coat.

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Postby Brian » June 14th, 2010, 4:15 pm

dawgs10 wrote:my point is proven. the confederate states of the morons!!!!!! i was the president i would have him brought up on charges and hung in the middle of washington dc as a traitor and a turn coat.


dawgs you continue to miss the entire point! The Constitution itself ALLOWS the very thing being described here!

Like you yourself have said, the Government is ran by the people of the United States. Do people always get it right? Did Clinton always get it right? Did Carter? Reagan? Bush? Will Obama? No, of course there will be mistakes because our Government is made up of an imperfect people. That would imply that some people are going to screw things up from time to time and others just may in fact have a better solution for some of our current problems.
You keep trying to imply that because a few fringe loonie tunes are motivated by racism that the entire Tea Party is based upon it. Nothing could be further from the truth.
That would be akin to me saying that just because there are fringe elements in Islam that there are radicals throughout the entirety of the Islamic faith. (I am not defending Islam, merely saying that not all Muslims are blood thirsty killers, nor am I saying that aren't some radicals in there because there are)
Not all Tea Partiers are racist anymore than all Muslims are blood thirsty killers.
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Postby TW » June 14th, 2010, 6:26 pm

dawgs10 wrote:my point is proven. the confederate states of the morons!!!!!! i was the president i would have him brought up on charges and hung in the middle of washington dc as a traitor and a turn coat.


Talk about morons, look in the mirror first. Exactly what "charges" would you bring against this man? Would you charge him with being against illegal taxation? Would you charge him as being a traitor to a federal government that is operating beyond it's Constitutional authority? Would you charge him with using his right of free speech?

This country cannot long survive going down this road that we are presently on. A society where the government takes care of everybody, fulfilling all their needs sounds good. It just doesn't work in real life. What needs to happen for the survival of the country is first restore the government to it Constitutional base. Then dump all of the entitlement programs. Forget trying to control any sector of business and let the free market determine the normal and reasonable value.


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"Liberty or Death" was a noble maxim, wasn't it?

Postby Poimen » June 15th, 2010, 1:30 am

Even though I am anti-alcohol, his comments resonate with me in principle. If that's un-american then so is our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence!

Yep, good Ole' Jeff Davis predicted as much some 150 years ago or so, when he said, "The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."

What principle was that? Constitutionally limited government, specifically regarding the 10th amendment. That's were we are folks. ;-)

Btw, I made a blog entry about this video over at The Confederate American. Check it out!

Also, this article by professor Bill Miller, shared on TCA also, is quite interesting. You might want to give it a read as well. It's called treasonous secession.
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Postby dawgs10 » June 15th, 2010, 1:39 am

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dawgs10 wrote:my point is proven. the confederate states of the morons!!!!!! i was the president i would have him brought up on charges and hung in the middle of washington dc as a traitor and a turn coat.


Talk about morons, look in the mirror first. Exactly what "charges" would you bring against this man? Would you charge him with being against illegal taxation? Would you charge him as being a traitor to a federal government that is operating beyond it's Constitutional authority? Would you charge him with using his right of free speech?

This country cannot long survive going down this road that we are presently on. A society where the government takes care of everybody, fulfilling all their needs sounds good. It just doesn't work in real life. What needs to happen for the survival of the country is first restore the government to it Constitutional base. Then dump all of the entitlement programs. Forget trying to control any sector of business and let the free market determine the normal and reasonable value.


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incouraging people to take up arms against my goverment is treasonous.

and the video itself was childish and silly. grow up folks.

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Postby TW » June 15th, 2010, 1:51 am

Then you better be prepared to charge George Washington, John Adams, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Patrick Henry and the rest of our founding fathers. They did the very same thing against their government that had become oppressive. Your response might be, " But they were Colonist not British subjects." Wrong! They were British subjects.


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Postby dawgs10 » June 15th, 2010, 1:57 am

they had been living in a different part of the world pretty much gov. theirselves and the british crown decided they wanted to take those rights that were not offical but allowed for years. that is not the same thing no matter how you look at it. we are one country under God. and anything else is treason.

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Postby Poimen » June 15th, 2010, 1:59 am

dawgs10 wrote:incouraging people to take up arms against my goverment is treasonous.

and the video itself was childish and silly. grow up folks.


Then by your estimation the Declaration of Independence itself is treasonous. Remember this bit?

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security


You ought to read the article I linked to above called treasonous secession as well. Nevertheless, however worthy such a call to arms might actually be at this juncture, this was clearly no call to literally take up arms, but a metaphor showing the gravity of such abuses to true Americanism when compared to the patriotic resolve of the revolutionary fathers, and a call for "volunteers" to take the battle to the ballot box.
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Postby dawgs10 » June 15th, 2010, 2:17 am

Under the operation of that policy, that agitation has not only, not ceased, but has constantly augmented.

In my opinion, it will not cease, until a crisis shall have been reached, and passed.

"A house divided against itself cannot stand."

this statement by the 16th president of the united states makes it clear. when something is inacted into law, and the people will not join together as one, it divideds the house. and we know that the words of Jesus is true. A house divided against itself cannot stand. if this leads to something greater, if we cease to remain the united states of america it will only be the fault of those that refused to accept and to pray for those in power as Jesus taught. good day folks, i have to go serve some of the people thatare hated by many because of the unamerican need to eat and to survive.

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Postby Shellie » June 15th, 2010, 2:27 am

dawgs, you stand out like a sore thumb in that red coat.
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Postby dolfan » June 15th, 2010, 8:39 am

It is wholly American to throw off and change our government. It may be illegal to do it in certain ways, but those ways are not thereby un-American nor are they immoral because they are illegal.

The problem is, Dawgs, that we have accepted as the moral and practical norm for us that which the Government has stated is to be. There's nothing anywhere in the Constitution nor in any stated founding ideal that requires us to submit to tyranny. There's nothing in the Bible that requires it either. Dress up any way you wish the large, extortionist and oppressive instruments of government: it is a tyranny and it is time for people to cast it off by any and every means necessary.

It is time for a new guard for our future security.
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Postby dawgs10 » June 15th, 2010, 11:39 am

dolfan wrote:It is wholly American to throw off and change our government. It may be illegal to do it in certain ways, but those ways are not thereby un-American nor are they immoral because they are illegal.

The problem is, Dawgs, that we have accepted as the moral and practical norm for us that which the Government has stated is to be. There's nothing anywhere in the Constitution nor in any stated founding ideal that requires us to submit to tyranny. There's nothing in the Bible that requires it either. Dress up any way you wish the large, extortionist and oppressive instruments of government: it is a tyranny and it is time for people to cast it off by any and every means necessary.

It is time for a new guard for our future security.


your right. by going to the polls and voting. not by spitting in peoples faces, or by incouragement to take up arms, or by incouraging treason. Jefferson Davis was wrong, the state of south carolina was wrong, so on and so on. i wouldnt compare the tea party people with the founding fathers. i would compare them more to those in the south during the cival war. that was wrong as well.


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