oletimer wrote:True He did eat with sinners, but did not participate in their sins. His words were;
Lu 19:10
For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.
Jesus wasn't so much against "religion" as He was against "fault religion".
Wow.. You sound like that offends you? John the Baptist was also offended that Jesus wasn't what he expected either.
But Awww Brother.... Whoo Hooo... I love this revelation about my Savior, Jesus. Not only did Jesus eat and dine with the Sinners.
They LOVED Him back because He didn't come to condemn them.. but thru HIM ( and
HIS REDEMPTIVE ACTIONS ALONE - not our filthy cultural or religious washings ) we could be saved and our relationship to the Father be restored. He made them the BEST wine!! SO much did He love them that the religious groups called him a " Modern Translation"..
WINO and FOODIE.. hanging out with the "mafia" of the day ( ie; tax collectors ). If SINNERS love you.. then that means you are a very REAL PERSON and non religious individual. You value them greatly and it SHOWS from your persona and you don't look down on this at all. He just loved them.. loved them.. loved them..
They then in return knew just as Peter did that "Love covers a multitude of sins" ( 1Pe 4:8 ).
That's MY JESUS! WHOO HOO!!
And finally brother nowhere have I said that
Jesus sinned and yet you to continue to come back with that
strawman argument.. and it shows you are missing the revelation entirely. I have offered extreme detailed explanation above and even linked in definitions of the words *sigh*... so all I can do is pray revelation on you above religious tradition.
And btw.. Yes as PG states.. the KJV is a TERRIBLE translation!
KJV:
Romans 10:17 (King James Version)
17. So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of
God.
Romans 10:17 (American Standard Version)
17. So belief cometh of hearing, and hearing by the word of
Christ.
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Romans 10:17
Greek Translations
Alexandrian
ara h pistiV ex akohV h de akoh dia rhmatoV
cristou
Hort and Westcott
ara h pistiV ex akohV h de akoh dia rhmatoV
cristou
Latin Vulgate
10:17 ergo fides ex auditu auditus autem per verbum
Christi
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It's not hearing the word of GOD.. but hearing WORD OF
CHRIST!!! And as you can imagine... I can give multiple more examples...
Remember real transformation comes by Truth and not from Religious Experiences.
WHOOO HOOOOO.. * extreme excitement *
Behold the LAMB!!