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The Reason for all the Israel Questions

Postby Gerald » December 6th, 2011, 12:13 am

The is reason for all the questions on Isreal.

Recently I have been noticing just how close to Israel-idolatry many Christians have been indulging in. From bringing in shofars to blow in Christian services or referring to Jesus by a Hebraic name or becoming more Jewishlike.

THis can be easily demonstrated by looking at a Recent book by Perry Stone: Breaking the Jewish Code: 12 Secrets that Will Transform Your Life, Family, Health, and Finances Described as: The Jewish people have thrived for more than four thousand years under both good and unthinkable circumstances. In Breaking The Jewish Code, Perry Stone helps readers unlock the amazing secrets to this success. Anyone can apply these time-honored principles in their life to create wealth, live in health, build faith, raise successful children, and pass on generational blessings!

The Problem?

Where is Jesus?

Jesus has been shuffled to the background. Dont live your life to please Jesus, life like a Jew for blesssings so Phenominal your grandchildrens heads will spin.

This is only ONE permutation of the Jew/Israel Worship. JOhn Hagee reads the scriptures in such a way that JESUS NEVER came to be the Messiah, and that Jewish sacrificed COWS are EQUALLY to the BLOOD OF CHRIST in REMOVING SIN as SOON as they start doing it again.

Jesus has been equated to a fly swatting cow.

Most ridiculous is the idea that a New Temple will be something of Import.
SOmehow, WITHOUT JESUS, they achieve a Holiness, AND IN THIS CONTINUAL DEFIANCE OF THEIR MESSIAH, they SOMEHOW IMPRESS the MESSIAH so much he visits them bodily and eventually reigns from a temple they constructed in DEFIANCE of HIM.


IN A NUTSHELL: JESUS IS NOT PARAMOUNT. ISRAEL is.


JESUS is the focus of scripture, not Israel.

JESUS is the FUlfilment of scripture, NOT Israel.

JESUS Is the most important thing in scripture, NOT ISRAEL.

JESUS is the source of all blessings in or life, NOt living like a Jew.

JESUS is the new Temple, not no stinking temple built by people who REFUSE HIM.

After living a life in churches that bordeline Idolize a people and nation, I've had enough.

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I agree

Postby scooter » December 6th, 2011, 2:47 am

I hear ya. I agree.

Did you read the book or just pull the forward?

I'd be curious to know if he left Jesus out.

Do you think there are any health benefits to eating like a Jew eats, if he or she follows a Biblical diet?
What we need here is a good revival! lol

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Postby dolfan » December 6th, 2011, 4:30 am

Gerald, I find some irony in all of it myself. For example, it dumbfounds me how a people whose grandparents suffered through the holocaust of WWII are vigilant about that history and excoriate anyone who denies it or minimizes its importance today --- while they, at the same time, deny the death of one man who gave his life for the whole nation of Israel and excoriate anyone who tries to press them on it. I find it particularly troublesome when the Jewish political interest groups in America lambast Ray Comfort for comparing abortion to the holocaust in his movie, 180 and call him disgusting for it. Comfort is, himself, Jewish by descent.

So, yes, I don't get all soft hearted and mushy feelings about Israel as a political entity. The Bible says to keep our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. The writer of that instruction to the Hebrews did not instruct them to watch national events in Israel. I'm not denying anything that any others post here about Israel, but I'm not buying in fully, either. I believe what Paul wrote about the remnant of Israel to be saved is yet to occur. I also believe that I'm in Alabama, not in the Middle East, and that my focus must be where God has planted me, and for the purpose of "rescuing the perishing" while there is time to rescue.
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Re: The Reason for all the Israel Questions

Postby MacUser » December 6th, 2011, 5:48 am

Gerald wrote:IN A NUTSHELL: JESUS IS NOT PARAMOUNT. ISRAEL is.


JESUS is the focus of scripture, not Israel.

JESUS is the FUlfilment of scripture, NOT Israel.

JESUS Is the most important thing in scripture, NOT ISRAEL.

JESUS is the source of all blessings in or life, NOt living like a Jew.

JESUS is the new Temple, not no stinking temple built by people who REFUSE HIM.

After living a life in churches that bordeline Idolize a people and nation, I've had enough.


Absolutely right.

Also it's a seduction to go back into the feasts and observances of the law. Paul describes this as a shadow when we have substance in a living Savior, Jesus Christ.

It's like me carrying around a photograph of my beautiful wife, showing it to everyone and kissing and loving on it - DEAD PAPER.... when my full warm blooded wife with her LOVING, FORGIVING, ARMS open wide is being ignored right next to me. She is here, real and desires an intimate relationship with me - just like Jesus Christ. The dead paper is just a shadow of the real thing. Paul says it's NOTHING to go back to. Zip Zero Nadda.

Why?
Romans 5: 15/16
15. Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.

16. Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed;...


Jesus revealed the Goodness of God. If we fail to get that basic core teaching.. the rest can easily be manipulated by these law pimps.
Chris -

... Behold, the Lamb of God, that taketh away the sin of the world!
John 1:29


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