Pastor and wife preach married sex with 24-hour 'bed-in'

[Poimen]

Yes Chris I have heard all of it and it did not impressed.

Fair enough.

For them to be out there in their bed only adds to the ideal of open sex. I know that they were not to have sex while there.

Really? I find that curious. I suppose then you only watch TV shows that show "husbands and wives" (if that) in different beds, whether they are having sex or not? I like and watch a lot of those shows myself, so this not a slight. I just think it a silly notion to conceive of a man and wife sleeping in separate beds.

As for "open" sex, just what do you mean by that? There is a vulgar secular meaning for that sort of expression, one Newt has recently been put threw the ringer over. Is that what you mean?

If not, then I suppose you mean open conversation about sexuality. if so, again, Paul was pretty open about the subject in Scripture -- especially sexual sin, what it was, how to avoid it, what sex provided to the married couple, who could have sex and who couldn't, right attitudes toward it, etc., and that in a letter to be circulated and read to each church, men and women. And under inspiration of the Holy Ghost at that.

Can one be too open? Too cavalier, detailed, unrestrained, and so forth? Sure. But they shouldn't be the one's teaching. What exactly was too open about the comments or content in that video though? Please be specific.

Now, if more detailed discussion were needed, I agree, same sex classes with appropriate groupings and Godly, apt teachers, is probably the best approach to addressing the subject in a church service or class setting. Also marriage retreats, one on one counseling, etc. But as far as addressing the issues head on, in a general way, I find it both biblically and needful.

Love you brother. Hope you and yours are well.

[MacUser]

In balance... this garbage is being taught to our young men and women as truth..

Abortion safer than giving birth: study
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/ ... BS20120123

... and according to some the sex topic is "untouchable".. Christians shouldn't discuss the wonderful fulfilling relationship of covenant marriage? I applaud this pastor and wife for pushing back against the ignorance and alerting the world that God has a better plan. This isn't rocket science and he can't take credit for it. It's literally God's plan of how we all get here in the first place and how to keep strong marriages.

Our families are being bombarded from all angles. Viagra, ED, KY Intensity Cream, Public School Sex Education, Studies, Soft Porn, Hard Porn etc. [ You can literally fill in the blank here ]

Church should be the SOURCE for healthy loving relationships and the joys, responsibilities of it. Where the sick can go to learn. Your go to adult manual for complete man and complete woman. Encouragement, NOT Condemnation. Even simple things to expect and watch for as we age. Use our collective knowledge to prepare and strengthen each other and GIVE each other ample GRACE to fail and learn along the way. Knowing Christ is sufficient in all things. Imagine that.


John 13:35 (MSG)
35" This is how everyone will recognize that you are my disciples—when they see the love you have for each other."


Or we can just ignore it all, pretend we are all perfect and ignore our raging hormone youth, and misguided, untrained ADULTS get trapped/lost in a complete distortion of truth. Dwell decades in lies as they stumble along just because it's what you had done as well.

Beam me up Scotty.

[TW]

Chris and Mac,
Thank you for your voices of reason. And oletimer, I realize why you feel the way you do. However, this is one area where the "churches" historical approach has been woefully wrong.


TW

[oletimer]

I it look like the World, smell like the world, act like the world, then it must be a duck.

I can remember when there was growth in the Church. I remember when people begin to want to be more like the world and now they are like the world and so blame the church for for not preach and teaching the truth and preaching and teaching santification to the point of living it.

I may stand along, but I will stand because I believe that we need to look and behave more like Christ, then to look and behave like the world.

[Poimen]

Okay, so this event and the content in the linked video is worldly? That' what you are saying?

How so? Please be specific.

And if so then what does Jesus teaching the sanctity, purpose, and place of sexuality look like?

[dolfan]

I'm not a big Ed Young, Jr. guy anyway, so I've just sort of blown it off as ... ehhh. Seems gimmicky to me. I'm not above a good gimmick, mind you, but I dunno ....

Their premise is that Satan has taken sex and the church needs to take it back. I don't know how much they attended to the illegitimacy of sex outside of marriage. With the casual hookup and the vocabulary relating to marital relationships being culturally shifted to apply more and more to non-married couples, I am personally more interested in that particular something-that-the-enemy-has-taken. Real marriage needs to be part of the discipling life, too, though, and certainly sex is part of that.

Still, I just didn't find the stunt a compelling way to do that. Looked more like a book promo to me.

[Gerald]

Has anyone ever listened to this guy stand up and talk (I say stand up and talk because I REFUSE to call what this nut does Preaching)?

He is an absolute idiot. ANd I dont mean because he's into any number of heresys or bad theology (he probably is but that's something else).

He preaches like a bad comedian with tourettes.


He couldnt even finish his "bed in" without calling it off due to being injured.

[MacUser]

He preaches like a bad comedian with tourettes.

As I stated in the past. I only watched his "bed in remote" from the roof of his facility. He didn't elude these physical traits in that instance. Maybe he was much more relaxed?

Regardless, if he had tapped it out in morse code while being blind and deaf... it wouldn't relegate his point.