Core Moral Issues Poll

pastorables · Postby **pastorables** » October 3rd, 2004, 11:41 am

Okay, Phil, let's do the poll.

pastorables

Phil Hoover · Postby **Phil Hoover** » October 3rd, 2004, 11:59 am

pastorables wrote:Okay, Phil, let's do the poll.

pastorables

Then add more choices...

YOUR POLL is skewed simply because of the nature of the choices....

And it really doesn't prove anything.....

Broaden your choice options....

You are asking your polling audience to choose between this or that...

and not to consider ALL the moral issues...

The Poll is skewed Pastor Ables.

ImaPK · Postby **ImaPK** » October 3rd, 2004, 12:13 pm

From another thread Phil said

What about the issues that we can definitely make a difference in: healthcare and education for starters?

Those are definitely moral issues, in my opinion.

Spending into oblivion---we can definitely stop that...and it's a moral issue...again, in my opinion.

I am against abortion and against same sex marriage

Pretty much covers what's in the poll

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » October 3rd, 2004, 12:17 pm

Pretty fair to me.. as it doesn't ignore or try to hide the truth.

Thanks pastorables.

Phil Hoover · Postby **Phil Hoover** » October 3rd, 2004, 12:23 pm

chrisalford.com wrote:Pretty fair to me.. as it doesn't ignore or try to hide the truth.

Thanks pastorables.

No, it just OMITS alot of other issues that are EQUALLY IMPORTANT to this nation....

Isolating abortion and homosexuality as the "greater moral" issues is almost the same as when the COGOP would judge Christians by whether they wore any jewelry or if they were in a divorce/remarriage dilemma.

Of course abortion and homosexuality have far greater implications than the highlighted issues in the previous sentence.....I was simply making a comparison by what some folks consider the "greater moral" issues.

Preaching the "whole counsel of God" includes all the issues...not just two, three or four of them.

Phil Hoover
Chicago

pastorables · Postby **pastorables** » October 3rd, 2004, 12:28 pm

Phil Hoover wrote:
YOUR POLL is skewed simply because of the nature of the choices....Broaden your choice options...

Phil,

You can't get much broader and expanded than OTHER, my friend.

pastorables

MacUser · Postby **MacUser** » October 3rd, 2004, 12:40 pm

Ditto pastorables. Phil, nothing you stated is as important as aborting the most innocent and weak among us. Taking a child that is whole and ready to be born and partially, forcefully delivering them half way out of the birth canal and then ramming a hollow rod in the base of the skull and basically sucking the "Living" childs brains out for later research.

Outside the womb we judge that as sheer horror, still in the womb it's considered OK and enlightened to John Kerry and liberal minded people. Regardless of the fancy talk.. Kerry Voted for it.

This is just the truth Phil, the sheer nasty truth. Does Church positions on Jewelry / Divorce Remarriage compare to this?

Phil Hoover · Postby **Phil Hoover** » October 3rd, 2004, 1:03 pm

chrisalford.com wrote:Ditto pastorables. Phil, nothing you stated is as important as aborting the most innocent and weak among us. Taking a child that is whole and ready to be born and partially, forcefully delivering them half way out of the birth canal and then ramming a hollow rod in the base of the skull and basically sucking the "Living" childs brains out for later research.

Outside the womb we judge that as sheer horror, still in the womb it's considered OK and enlightened to John Kerry and liberal minded people. Regardless of the fancy talk.. Kerry Voted for it.

This is just the truth Phil, the sheer nasty truth. Does Church positions on Jewelry / Divorce Remarriage compare to this?

My only objection to the POLL is that if you are gonna offer one, don't skew it so you will get the results that you want, instead of a more objective poll that gives people more choices...

Abortion is an awful thing...Homosexuality is an awful thing.
No healthcare for millions who work hard every day is an awful thing.
Sexual abuse is an awful thing.
Alcoholism and Gambling are awful things....

Phil Hoover
Chicago

Mike Vande · Postby **Mike Vande** » October 3rd, 2004, 1:19 pm

Phil, if the poll isn't the way you think it should be, compose one you think is right.

Phil Hoover · Postby **Phil Hoover** » October 3rd, 2004, 1:22 pm

Mike Vande wrote:Phil, if the poll isn't the way you think it should be, compose one you think is right.

Okay Mike, I'm not sure how to set up a poll...can you tell me how to do it on here...I'll be glad to do one...

Phil

Mike Vande · Postby **Mike Vande** » October 3rd, 2004, 1:27 pm

Phil Hoover wrote:
Mike Vande wrote:Phil, if the poll isn't the way you think it should be, compose one you think is right.

Okay Mike, I'm not sure how to set up a poll...can you tell me how to do it on here...I'll be glad to do one...

Phil

Never done it myself, but I'm sure Gary can tell you.

Jude 2