Obama lectures nation using scripture

[beckrl]

Georgetown Says It Covered Over Name of Jesus to Comply With White House Request


To me it's funny that President Obama try's to lecture the nation through scripture. He misuses it to lend some sort of credence for his policies.
Then cover it up totally disrespectfully towards the Catholic Church, the Pope, the Knights of Columbus, and what the Church teaches.



http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667

[beckrl]

Ok guys and gals, To Obama who is the "Rock"? He never spoke of Jesus, but misused those scriptures to get the christain support for his policy's

Never used Jesus name and covered it up. To me President Obama is saying his policy's is that "Rock"

Is he a christain at all? Or just uses Christains for his policy's. To me again it reminds me of history with the Roman Church and the Roman Emperor in which the Emperor used the Church for his power.

[Tim Elston]

Yikes, it's like George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, JFK, Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman, and FDR all over again!

Huff and puff!

[one love]

Yikes, it's like George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, Lyndon Johnson, JFK, Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman, and FDR all over again!

Huff and puff!

That was funny Tim! Yes I think most politicians use the religious card to gain votes BUT I dont recall any to go out of there way to NOT let Jesus be seen and to tell the world "we are not a christian nation"

[Tim Elston]

I dont recall any to go out of there way to NOT let Jesus be seen and to tell the world "we are not a christian nation"

I have never even heard of "IHS," much less that it represents Jesus' name. The White House requested that all Georgetown insignia be covered over, not that IHS be targeted in order to take Jesus out of anything. The speech even contained a reference to The Sermon on the Mount, named as such, and it was a legitimate use of the parable of the house built on the sand. But, of course, Obama is condemned if he does use scripture and condemned if he doesn't. These bellyaches remind me of another of Jesus' sayings: "We piped for you, and you did not dance."

[one love]

I dont recall any to go out of there way to NOT let Jesus be seen and to tell the world "we are not a christian nation"

I have never even heard of "IHS," much less that it represents Jesus' name. The White House requested that all Georgetown insignia be covered over, not that IHS be targeted in order to take Jesus out of anything. The speech even contained a reference to The Sermon on the Mount, named as such, and it was a legitimate use of the parable of the house built on the sand. But, of course, Obama is condemned if he does use scripture and condemned if he doesn't. These bellyaches remind me of another of Jesus' sayings: "We piped for you, and you did not dance."

HMM To be honest I have not seen the article just a picture that said white house asked that Jesus had to be covered up, if this is not true and he did not cover up Jesus, then I apologize for not reading it myself....

[one love]

Roman Catholics traditionally use “IHS” as an abbreviation for Jesus’ name. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia, “St. Ignatius of Loyola adopted the monogram in his seal as general of the Society of Jesus (1541) and thus became the emblem of his institute.” The Society of Jesus is the formal name for the Jesuits.

In a sense he did cover a abbreviation of Jesus, or a abbreviation KNOWN to be Jesus But:

Gaston Hall stage as it looked on the afternoon of April 15 with "IHS" still shrouded. (Photo by Penny Starr, CNSNews.com)
Although the monogram was covered over on the wooden pediment at the back of the Gaston Hall stage where it would have been directly above and behind President Obama as he spoke, the letters “IHS” are posted elsewhere around the hall approximately 26 times on shields representing different parts of the United States and the world.

It was not all covered up they still appeared every where else. So the question should be was just cosmetics that he covered it up or did it happen so he was not seen in a picture with the Catholic abbreviation of Jesus? Dont know but he is placing fuel on the fire for some to think he is muslim..

[Tim Elston]

It was not all covered up they still appeared every where else. So the question should be was just cosmetics that he covered it up or did it happen so he was not seen in a picture with the Catholic abbreviation of Jesus? Dont know but he is placing fuel on the fire for some to think he is muslim..

The claims that Obama is a Muslim are ridiculous, as are claims that he is a Marxist. I don't care whether he is a Muslim or not; President Bush said that Islam is an honorable faith and that America is made up of Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc., and he is right. There is no constitutional stipulation that the president be a Christian. But whatever being a Christian has meant for our forty-four presidents, Obama is at least Christian enough to hold company with the likes of G. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, G. H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, and JFK.

I recall the recent hullabaloo about Obama trying to make himself out to be the Messiah. Remember that nonsense? Well, what would these complainers have said if Obama had delivered a speech with IHS over his head, right about in halo position?

May God save us from his best and brightest. Not you, Kevin; I mean whomever.

[one love]

It was not all covered up they still appeared every where else. So the question should be was just cosmetics that he covered it up or did it happen so he was not seen in a picture with the Catholic abbreviation of Jesus? Dont know but he is placing fuel on the fire for some to think he is muslim..

The claims that Obama is a Muslim are ridiculous, as are claims that he is a Marxist. I don't care whether he is a Muslim or not; President Bush said that Islam is an honorable faith and that America is made up of Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, etc., and he is right. There is no constitutional stipulation that the president be a Christian. But whatever being a Christian has meant for our forty-four presidents, Obama is at least Christian enough to hold company with the likes of G. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, G. H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Richard Nixon, and JFK.

I recall the recent hullabaloo about Obama trying to make himself out to be the Messiah. Remember that nonsense? Well, what would these complainers have said if Obama had delivered a speech with IHS over his head, right about in halo position?

May God save us from his best and brightest. Not you, Kevin; I mean whomever.

I agree Tim that is why I am saying should we truly say he covered Christ or was it cosmetic, seeming that the rest of the room was still exposed with it.

The Messiah complex was created or at least exaggerated by talk radio and McCain Ad's. these are the other things that bother me. Some may say I am liberal, which if my post are read correctly they should know that is not true, however TIM is right there is a HUGE amount of hypocrisy going on.

We are watching many of our own party and FRIENDS/Brothers in Christ doing the same if not worse then what was done and said about Bush.

Lets look at this objectively:

They disagreed with Bush and slammed him all the time, we ALL complained about the treatment he received, I still complain about it.

yet 4 months in the oppositions presidency the republicans/conservatives are doing the same thing!

But I know I am wrong and I should show horrific pictures of aborted fetus's that say "OBAMA the Baby killer" .... that is a picture I want my child to see....


Matter of fact if you went against Bush you were called un patriotic! where is that now? Was it only for us and no other candidate that is in war?
Look I love Rush and Hannity but I have heard so MUCH back tracking and hypocrisy from their show that I hardly listen anymore.

Still love boortz and another local show here that is more liberal. I am over hearing the same rhetoric over and over and over and over and over and over again....

We need a fresh start folks, a inspiring voice for a next candidate. I still like Romney and huckabee.

[beckrl]

Ok guys, Please reread the CNSNew's report.

(CNSNews.com) - Georgetown University says it covered over the monogram “IHS”--symbolizing the name of Jesus Christ—because it was inscribed on a pediment on the stage where President Obama spoke at the university on Tuesday and the White House had asked Georgetown to cover up all signs and symbols there

Why would they ask? If you are President and you go to speak at Georgtown and in our speak use scripture (misuse scripture) which the point of that scripture is the "RocK" which is Jesus.
Why go to Georgtown and ask them to cover up thier signs and symbols of what they believe. If he or they wanted to dress up the place with the president flag or what not. Why not just use a presidentual pulpit?

[bibleguy]

IHS supposedly represents a monogram for Jesus' name. Like the xp stands for Christ. It comes from the Greek ΙΗΣ, short for Jesus' name which, in capital letters, is written ΙΗΣΟΥΣ. The Latin "H" resembles the Greek eta "H" in appearance, hence IHS.



Orthodox Christians often use IC-XC based on the Greek spelling for Jesus Christ - Ιησους Χριστος, as is seen in many icons.



It also has ties to some Latin phrases: Iesus Hominum Salvator, Jesus Savior of Man; or In Hoc Signo, "In this sign..." the legendary vision of Constantine. English-speaking Christians interpret it to mean "In His Service."

Hislop, in his book The Two Babylons, cites Egyptian paganism to IHS, representing their gods: Isis, Horus & Seb.

[Brian]

The fact of the matter is (for me) that I simply and plainly do not like Mr. Barak Obama. Period, end of story. The are a TON of reasons why and this just happens to be just one of them. But I agree, there is a certain level of hypocracy that goes on in both parties when the other is in power.

However.....

As a christian and someone who has a drive to defend the faith aggresively I feel I have every right to point out the shady practices of deciet and underhandness of someone who claims they are a lifelong christian but clearly does not adhear to many of the basic fundamental beliefs that the scriptures declare. Now of course I don't want to compare Obama to the devil so dont go there. but the enemies of God will sometime USE scripture and distort it to confuse or mislead people. And sometimes the enemy of God will flat out go AGAIST the word in many different forms and fashions. So for me it goes both ways, I can have a problem with Obama for using the word and distorting its message and also for not using it and trying to erase it from public sight.

Do I stack the deck against Mr. Obama? maybe....sad part is, I frankly don't care.

[one love]

The fact of the matter is (for me) that I simply and plainly do not like Mr. Barak Obama. Period, end of story. The are a TON of reasons why and this just happens to be just one of them. But I agree, there is a certain level of hypocracy that goes on in both parties when the other is in power.

However.....

As a christian and someone who has a drive to defend the faith aggresively I feel I have every right to point out the shady practices of deciet and underhandness of someone who claims they are a lifelong christian but clearly does not adhear to many of the basic fundamental beliefs that the scriptures declare. Now of course I don't want to compare Obama to the devil so dont go there. but the enemies of God will sometime USE scripture and distort it to confuse or mislead people. And sometimes the enemy of God will flat out go AGAIST the word in many different forms and fashions. So for me it goes both ways, I can have a problem with Obama for using the word and distorting its message and also for not using it and trying to erase it from public sight.

Do I stack the deck against Mr. Obama? maybe....sad part is, I frankly don't care.

Awesome post, I agree. you are saying that you disagree with him, Dont like him etc. That is how I feel. It is the other things I am talking about! But good post Brian!

[Tim Elston]

Do I stack the deck against Mr. Obama? maybe....sad part is, I frankly don't care.

Okay, you don't care about "stacking the deck" against Obama. I hear you loud and clear: you don't care about the truth. It's more important to you to stick it to someone you don't like than to be fair to him. Wonderful testimony, Brian. Awesome light from the city set on a hill. Now, don't be surprised when the rest of us call it hypocrisy.

[Brian]

Do I stack the deck against Mr. Obama? maybe....sad part is, I frankly don't care.

Okay, you don't care about "stacking the deck" against Obama. I hear you loud and clear: you don't care about the truth. It's more important to you to stick it to someone you don't like than to be fair to him. Wonderful testimony, Brian. Awesome light from the city set on a hill. Now, don't be surprised when the rest of us call it hypocrisy.

Tim you know as well as I that for many people no matter if my witness is as pure as the driven snow they will still turn up there noses and cast my words aside like yesterdays news! And you should also know by now that my seeming hypocrisy is mostly just me blowing off steam because of how people defend the undefendable. And as far as caring about the truth.....what truth is Obama standing for? What truth is there in a man who does almost everything in his power to deprive the life of the unborn and continue the genoside that has become todays liberal left wing policies? But hey, there progessive. There open minded. There tolerant. Whatever!!

Tim I'm just tired. I'm tired of playing patty cake with the people who are helping bring about the destruction of morality in America and are calling it good!!!

And I'm probably just having a bad day. LOL